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Lucy originally set out to do her take on combining Karin’s take on Maria Speck’s Aroma Bread and Karin’s Great Wild Rice bread.  Both of these breads are on our favorite list and on Lucy’s top three breads for various years.


But Aroma means aromatic seeds like caraway, anise coriander and fennel but you won’t find any in this bread because we forgot to put them in.  But, don’t let this keep you from adding them in your version.  With or without the bread won’t know the difference even though you might.


This is also our fist sprouted flour bread with lots of add ins in it too.  We subbed Japanese Black rice for the wild rice since, while still expensive half the cost of wild and nearly as tasty.  We sprouted some black rice too and put it in whole instead of grinding it into flour like the rest of the whole and sprouted grains.


Besides the BR, the other 7 grains were” Hayden Mills emmer (farro), spelt, rye, wheat, Kamut, Pima Club and Sonoran White from Ramona Farms.  Whole grains were 50% of the mix and half were sprouted and dried in our new dehydrator.  The white flour was KA bread flour.


We sifted out the hard bits and fed them to the SD 3 stage levain build and then retarded it for 24 hours in the fridge.  We also made a small 1 build, 12 hour, YW levain of 50 G that we made the next day which was ready in time for mixing it into the dough. 


We thought this dough would be on the heavier side with 200 G of seeds in the mix and a YW kicker should help open the crumb some even if on the small side.  We omitted the autolyse this time and just mixed everything together with a spoon and let it sit 30 minutes before the slap and folds began.


Even though the hydration was only 80%, the mix was still sloppy due to the Ramona Farms, spelt and black rice being in the mix.  It finally quit sticking to the counter during the 2nd of 3 sets of slap and folds 2ith the first one 8 minutes and the next 2 1 minute each.


We also did 3 sets of stretch and folds and each of the gluten development manipulations were done on 40 minute intervals.  The sesame seeds, sprouted Japanese rice, flax seeds, pumpkin and sunflower seeds were added during the first set of stretch and folds and they were thoroughly incorporated by the end of the 3rd set. 


Because of the cold we kept the dough in a SS bowl 0on a heating pad during the gluten development.  We skipped the bulk ferment and immediately shaped the dough, placed it in a rice floured basket, bagged it and retarded it for 12 hours.  After a 3 hour warm up on the heating pad, we fired up Big Old Betsy to 500 F and put in the Mega Steam.


We upended the basket on parchment on a peel, slashed it and slid I on the bottom stone for 20 minutes of steam at 450 F.  We then removed the steam, turned the oven down to 425 F convection and continued baking another 25 minutes until the temperature read 208 F wj=hen the oven was turned off the bread left on the stone till it hit 210 F and was removed to a cooling rack.


The dough bloomed and sprang well under steam, became a  deep mahogany color and smelled seedy in a good way.  We like everything about it so far and hope the crumb is a as nice when we slice it for breakfast toast in the morning,  The crumb wasn't as open as the same bread without all the add in seeds and black Japanese rice sprouts but it was open enough not to be too dense. We thought that the YW woild do a better job of opening the crumb but we thought Lucy would be a decent bread baking apprentice too:-)

The crumb is just full of good tasting seeds and now we wish we wouldn't have forgotten the aromatic ones.  In any event, this is a fine tasting bread and will be perfect with just about any kind of meal this week.  It is a welcome change from the no added bits in the crumb  breads we have been making of late.  Lucy reminds us that she is really going to be watching us bread people this year to pick her breads of the year for 2015!


Levain Build

Build 1

Build 2

 Build 3



6 Week Retarded Rye Sour Starter






83% Extraction Whole & Sprouted






17% Extract Whole & Sprouted






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Levain Hydration






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Dough Flour






83% Extract Sprouted & Whole Grain






KA Bread Flour






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Dough Hydration






Total Flour w/ Starter


















Hydration with Starter






Total Weight






% Whole Grain






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Flax & Sesame Seeds






Sunflower & Pumpkin Seeds






Sprouted Japanese Black Rice












8 Whole and sprouted grains include equal amounts of Pima Club, Sonoran


White, Black Japanese rice, rye, spelt, emmer (farro), Kamut and wheat


Half the whole grains were sprouted






BumbleBee84's picture

After my numerous trial and errors journey of trying to grow my very first sourdough starter I am pleased to announce that this morning a miracle happened!!!she finally ripened (she passed the float test with awesome bubbles and a mildly sweet + acidic/sour aroma) and me being an eager beaver I decided to have a go at making a sourdough bread using the Tartine 80% hydration whole wheat recipe and it worked,I have made my very first sour dough bread,elated best describes my feeling right now!!! Look at the crumb on that baby... :-)  

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Scalded Rye Bread

It's been a worthwhile experience. I feel I've learned a lot of the basics for handling rye flours. Four of eighteen I'll add to my modest repertoire: Rye Sticks, Milwaukee Rye, Zeltan (Tyrolean Fruit Bread) and Rye Squares; I'll likely tweak them all to better match the flavors I want.

I'm still searching for a high percentage rye bread, dense, flavorful and sour. There are a few candidates among the ones we (Gang B) baked but I'm far from chosing yet.

Of the last two (shown above) Ginger-Prune Bread, and Scalded Rye Bread, one is is in the running, the other--for reasons other than flavor--isn't. Both have distinct, excellent flavors.

David G

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grain mill below 32 for days, how long to warm up?

January 2, 2015 - 8:22am -- Melesine

My new Komo is being delivered today after spending the last 5 days in transit in below freezing temperatures. How long should I let it warm up in the house before I use it? It's on the truck and it's still in the 20's today. I don't want to mess up the motor. It's been between 0 and 20 degrees since it left the sellers. 

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We 3 gmas made "donuts"

January 2, 2015 - 7:36am -- gmagmabaking2

We had fun bringing in the New Year... reminiscing about the old one... (the year, not one of us!)... and making donuts while watching the Rose Bowl Parade from satellites and TVs spread halfway across the country... fun times... Barb's donuts and apple fritters lead us in... appropriately since she is our lead baker! She continues to lead us down the path of flour, water, salt and yeast... sourdough and all imaginable good stuff!

Here are her other pictures...

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Hello from Northumberland, UK

January 2, 2015 - 4:14am -- jacdaw

Hi everybody. I've been lurking for a while, so thought that I should maybe introduce myself. I've been baking a while now, and seem to use this site for advice for most problems I have, and lots of inspiration.

The pictures are yesterday's sourdough; a bit flatter than usual, and very sticky / hard to handle when shaping. Not sure why...





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Decided it was time to have a go at using sourdough only in my favourite yeasted bread.  

the recipe (From Rose levy Berambaum's Bread Bible) uses white bread flour but I chose to use a little whole wheat in the mix.


Grain soaker - 236 gm mixed grains,113 gm hot water,9 gm salt soaked overnight 

final dough

237 gm bread flour

65 gm whole wheat flour

12 gm gluten

153 gm water

12 gm honey

Levain - 85 gm 125% hydration

Mixed final dough, autolysed 40 minutes then added grains, kneaded till combined then did 5 stretch and folds over 2 hours and left to bulk ferment. Thought I had enough strength in dough at this point. Got visitors and it trebled in size (?overproofed ) before I got back to it (about 5 hours of bulk fermentation). Preshaped and did a brief rest, final shape then left to proof.  Now this is where I am not sure what I should have done.  I was going out for dinner so decided it had proofed close to what it should and baked it as usual with steam.  It had spread more than I thought it would and hadnt risen greatly in the oven.  The crumb looks ok I think. would it have been better to do a cold retard overnight right after shaping? I wondered about doing retard instead of baking, but maybe it would have overproofed then.  Any helpful hints appreciated.  Also wondered if I had used enough levain


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