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Wingnut

A simple loaf…...

I have one more proofing with Roasted Garlic and Pecorino Cheese, I'll post those pics later.

Cheers,

Wingnut

Roasted Garlic and Pecorino Cheese Bread

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proth5

Well, just to prove that my mind can get a bit fuzzy after long hours and stressful situations, for the life of me, i thought the title of this was simply "Farmer's Bread" - but it wasn't.

Some people expressed interest in some formulas, I am posting here.  These do come from a German baker's manual (I had to fire up the German translation skills...and get some help...) and I did bake at least one of them (no pictures - I'm back to my old habit of no pictures.)

First the method:

Final Mix desired dough temperature - 82-84F (yep. no typo)

Bulk Ferment - 5-10 mins (Again, no typo)

Loaf size - 1150g (oh, the horror! I'm now using at least some metric!) Shape round proof in floured brotforms. Dock prior to baking which is not poking holes in it with a fork - it is using a dough docker or other blunt instrument to make dents in the surface of the dough.)

 

Mix time:

Spiral Mixer 1-2mins

Planetary mixer - 6 mins

Diving arm mixer - 10 mins (if you have such a thing, I'm looking at you, Phil!)

(First speeds all)

Final proof

Temp 86-95F

Humidity - 70-75%

Time - 50 - 60 minutes

 

Bake with normal steam (Pre steam, load, steam, vent after 2 mins)

Temperature - start at 536 F (might have to just be 500F for most home ovens) let fall slowly to 410F

Time 60 mins.

 

I will give the formula for a 3 build and a 2 build formula

3 Build (Called Detmolder 3 phase)

Freshening Build

0.040 kg rye starter

0.080 kg Whole rye flour

0.120 l water

Ripening temperature: 77-79F

Ripening Time 5-6 hours

After ripening, remove 0.040kg to perpetuate the rye starter

 

2nd build

All of the freshening sour

1.000 kg whole rye flour

0.600 l water

Ripening Temperature - 75-80F

Ripening Time 15-25 hours

3rd build

All of the second build

2.700 kg Whole Rye

2.700 l water

Ripening temperature - 86F

Ripening time 3 hours

Final Dough

All of the sour

5.2200 kg Whole Rye flour

1.000 kg white flour (The German manual calls out T1050 - but use any white flout that is suitable for bread)

0.080 kg fresh yeast (optional)

0.180 kg Salt

3.589 l water

 

 

Two stage rye (called Detmolder two stage)

First Sour

0.100 kg rye starter

1.600 kg Whole Rye

0.800 l water

Ripening Temperature - 75-80F

Ripening time - 15-24 hours (remove 0.100 of the sour to perpertuate the starter)

 

Second sour

All of the first sour

2.400 kg Whole rye

2.400 l water

Ripening temperature 84-87F

Ripening time 3 hours

 

Final Dough

All of the sour

5.000 kg whole rye flour

1.000 kg white flour (again T1050 is called out, but use any white (wheat flour) good for bread making)

0.130 kg fresh yeast (and you probably should add the yeast on this bread)

0.180 kg salt

3.800 l water

 

So, the quantities are pretty large - use your calculator or your spreadsheets to reduse sizes to something more suitable.

And there you are. I'm posting this with a sincere belief that I have violated no copyrights, but if I have done, I'll be told soon enough.  I'm not a big rye bread baker or eater, although this formula is begining to change my mind. Turns out, the carroway so many people are fond of in rye causes me shooting headaches - so this may be why I avoided rye.  This particular bread is lovely and quite tasty - although not exactly a fluffy sandwich loaf! It still is a bit like putty to handle, but wasn't as bad as I remembered the stuff to be (maybe the shooting headaches from the carroway...)

As for the video that the OP references that inspired this posting, I've got to say that I will never understand the urge that people have to make videos of themselves as a "how to" - without any assurance that they should be doing it. I always have a certain hesitance to put myself in front of folks as a teacher, becasue I think that I should at least be an expert - but the individual in the video - he didn't have those qualms.

Peace.

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golgi70

My vacation has begun... with baking.  I've eyed the Arrowhead Mills Sprouted Wheat Flour for some time and decided it was time to use it.  My attempts here were directed at a solid everyday bread.  No fillers besides the 25% Whole Grain addition.  The dough is quite fantastic.  Very smooth and elastic with great strength.  It was so active and happy at the time of divide/shape I didn't dare proof it at room temp at all and went straight to the retarder for 8 hours (maybe a mistake).  Holy Oven Spring.  

Made a big change for my steaming. I went and bought a big bag of lava rocks and filled my roasting pan with them.  Poured about 2 Cups of water in at start of bake and removed after 13 minutes.  This seems to have provided much more steam than the towels/smaller rock tray.  A winner that takes less effort, yes please.  

Formula  (77% hydration)

For 2 loaves @ 

Levain (6 hours at 75 degrees)  77% hydration

205      Sprouted Wheat Flour

147.5   H20

103       White Starter (100%)

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Finished Dough:  Autolyse 2 hours  DDT (76-78F)

600       H20

373.3    Malted Bread Flour (11.5 % protein)

350.8   Hi Protein Bread Flour (14% protein)

34         Barley Flour

16.5     Rye Flour

22         Sea Salt

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1)  Mix Levain and let rise 6 hours.  This was quite stiff as the wheat really sopped up the H20 but I wanted the levain to be at the final dough hydration as has been my method of late.  

2)  Autolyse Flours and Water for 2 hours (Hold back 10% of water)

3)  Add levain and mix on speed 1 to incorporate (3-5 minutes).  Add salt and continue until well distributed. 

4)  Turn to speed 2 (I am using a commercial hobart with 4 speeds) so lo medium. and develop dough.  

5)  Once well developed add remaining water and mix on speed 1 until dough comes back together. 

6)  Bulk Ferment 4 hours:  2 sets of French slap @ 15 minutes followed by 2 s + f's at 40 minutes.

7)  Divide and preshape.  Rest 20 minutes.  

8)  Shape into floured bowls.  Cover and retard 8-12 hours

(due to minor underproofing I might give them 30-60 minutes at room temp before retarding.)

9)  Bake at 500 with steam for 12 minutes(10 minutes might be better), then lower to 480 and continue for 10-15 minutes. 

Cool 

Bounty Pictures to come.  I certainly made myself look good and didn't show the blowout scores.  The oven spring and my lack of sleep made scoring pretty bad til the last two sets.  Anyhoo.  

Its quite tasty.  Thin chewy crust with a soft moist crumb and a nice bit of sour.  

 

Josh

 

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evonlim

http://vimeo.com/34325967 after watching this video.. inspired me to work with higher hydration confidently. 

my first 85% hydration loaves...

 

 i used grape yeast water after 4 days of fermentation. 

 

used Stone-Buhr Whole Wheat Flour and Dove's malthouse mixed grain flour

 

 

 

nice sour with hint of sweetness.. airy texture made it so crunchy. light yet hearty. 

made a simple sandwich ... just lovely

evon

 

 

breadsong's picture
breadsong

Hello everyone,

Thanks to David for his Pizza Bliss post and the delicious pizza crust formula and method he shared.
Pizza crust has always been a challenge for me and I was very happy to have made this pizza crust!

David's formula made a lot of dough and we ate pizza three nights running - my husband couldn't believe his luck :^)

This was one of the pizzas we enjoyed (Bacon, Potato, Rosemary):
http://m.foodnetwork.com/recipes/453473

With the olive oil and bacon, we didn't add the Fontina cheese called for - even so, this pizza was extremely tasty and I imagine even more so, with the cheese!
The arugula topping added a really nice fresh flavor, delicious and simply dressed with fresh lemon juice.



before baking - bacon, potato, rosemary and onion toppings

baked, dressed and the crumb
 

                                    ...quite yummy!


Happy baking everyone!
:^) breadsong

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Skibum

I used the SD method, sorry the dabrownman method once again on this one, using 10% organic rye, 10% duram semolina and 5% WW.  All aspects of this bread went together well and I can't wait to taste the results. So I did an overnight autolyse on the whole grain flours @ 100 hydration and another hour of 100
% auto when the bread flour was added.  I did manage to add the rest of the bread flour  this time.  Mixed in the levain @ 20% and rested it with the aslt on top of the dough, in case I forget to add it.  Four S&F's with 10 minutes rest then 3 more with 30 in between, 1:20 on the counter, then into the fridge for an 18 hour bulk retard.  One hour rest on counter, then pre-shape, rest 15 and shape.  I find boules much easier to shape than batards and baguets and have consistently got great results baking boules in a hot dutch oven.

I also baked a batard today and even with 35 minutes proof as per my last batard bake, I was not able to get a clean score with the lame and though got a tasty loaf, the score was not deep enough to open the grigne. . .   :-(  

I have another batch going for tomorrow morning's batard bake and will proof for only 30 minutes and see if the lame works.  It seems feeding the starter daily and baking daily creates a very active starter!  

Here is the crumb on today's multi-grain boule:

Sorry folks, only 2 out of 4 ears today, but the loaf did bloom beautifully!  

Along with the batard dough that is bulk proofing, I have a first half batch of sourdough Pulla.  Now this will be an interesting bake on two levels:  1.  1st crack at SD pulla;  2.  I ran out of my strong bread flour I buy from the local artisan http://jkbakery.ca/ and ended up using about 10% pastry flour and another 10% duram semolina to get things together. I really, really hope head baker Angela is working tomorrow so I can get another 20 kg of fresh bakery level flour!

Happy baking TFLoafers!

Brian

 

DEREKLJ's picture
DEREKLJ

Thank you so much to all of you who gave me some really good advice with making these rolls.

It's only taken me just over a year of disaster after disaster.

I think I now know where I was going wrong.

1) My dough was'nt the right consistency.

2) On the second proofing I left them too long.

3) the covering on the second proofing was too heavy and squashed the rolls down.

4) the oven was on 140c instead of 200c

The only problem I have now is that the rolls are tasting quite bland.

Any ideas please ?

Thank you all again

Derek 

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dabrownman

We took last week's more tame bake and decided to gussie it up some.  There is just no way to hold my apprentice back when it comes to gussieness.  She decided to add some walnuts and re-hydrated black mission figs (one of our favorite combinations for fruit and nuts in bread) and some pumpkin and sunflowers seeds

 

These new additions went along with last week’s ground sesame and flax seeds, Toadies, red and white malts and VWG.  We cut back on some of the whey and white whole wheat flour and replaced them with more water and our special mix of 75% extraction home ground flour consisting of 25% rye, 25% spelt and 25% Kamut and 25% farro.

  

Since we again used the 25% sifted out bran portion to feed a smaller levain, we ended up with 85% whole grain bread instead of 100% like last week.  With all the fruit, nut and seed additions, I didn’t honk that Lucy would notice that some of the whole grain was missing.  We need some sifted bran and middlings for the next batch of Toadies.

 

Even though the 85% hydration was the same as last week’s bake the dough felt more wet and sticky.  This was probably due to some of the whole gain missing and that the re-hydrated figs may have carried some extra water with them.  In any even the dough was more slack for sure and hopefully this will open the crumb some more and still provide proper lift.

  

We followed a similar method to last week with one exception. We built the levain on Tuesday instead of Wednesday so that it could sit in the fridge for 48 hours to get more sour.  Since all of the whole grain bits were in the levain we autolysed the dough flours for 3 hours while the levain was warming up and finishing in final doubling.  The levain was refrigerated when it showed a 25% volume increase after the 3rd feeding.

  

We did 12 minutes of slap and folds since the dough felt slacker.  We incorporated the ground sesame and flax seeds, along with pumpkin and sunflower seeds, during the first set of (3) S&F’s that were performed 20 minutes apart.  The figs and the walnuts went in on the 2nd set and by the end of the 3rd set everything was well distributed.

 

After a short 15 minute rest the dough was pre-shaped and then shaped into a short squat batard to fit our oval basket and then it was placed into a used trash can liner and immediately retarded in the fridge for 20 1/2 hours.  It wasn’t quite were we wanted it when it came out of the fridge so we let it warm upon the counter an hour.

 

The dough was then un-molded on the parchment covered mini broiler top, slashed and  placed into the 500 F preheated mini oven that was steaming with 2 of Sylvia’s steaming cups and a ¼ cup of water thrown into the bottom of the mini oven as the door was closed.  Three minutes later we turned the oven own to 475 F.

 

We let the bread steam for 16 minutes before removing Sylvia’s steam generators and turning the oven down to 425 F, convection.   We rotated the bread every 5 minutes and in 25 minutes the bread tested 203 F when it was removed to a cooling rack.  So, this time the total bake was 41 minutes.

 

The bread bloomed OK but didn’t spring that much.  It might have been over proofed a little bit. It must have been that extra half and hour in the cold.  It browned well and had the crust that the mini oven puts on bread nearly every time but without the blisters.  The kitchen smelled like bake day for sure even without any aromatic seeds in the mix  - I knew my apprentice forgot something!

This bread is one that you won't forget.  Earthy, nutty, seedy, with a hint of sweet figs.... just plain tasty.  The crust is boldly baked, thick and it stayed crunchy too.  the crumb is soft moist and fairly open for a near whole grain bread with lots of stuff in it.  If you are all alone on a deserted island, this is the bread you want to have in your knapsack.  It made one of the tastiest grilled chicken sandwiches with the typical fruits and veggies, some pickled veg from the sausages last night and a slice of brie - Yummy!

Formula

Brunch with this bread the next morning.  Delicious!

 

Build 1

Build 2

 Build 3

Total

%

Multigrain SD Starter

10

0

0

10

2.27%

25% Extracted Bran

20

30

32

82

18.59%

Water

20

30

32

82

18.59%

Total

50

60

64

174

39.46%

 

 

 

 

 

 

Multigrain SD Levain

 

%

 

 

 

Flour

87

19.73%

 

 

 

Water

87

19.73%

 

 

 

Hydration

100.00%

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Levain % of Total

16.14%

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dough Flour

 

%

 

 

 

75% Extraction Multigrain

254

57.60%

 

 

 

White Whole Wheat

100

22.68%

 

 

 

Dough Flour

354

80.27%

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Salt

8

1.81%

 

 

 

Whey 135

327

74.15%

 

 

 

Dough Hydration

92.37%

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Total Flour

441

100.00%

 

 

 

Whey 135 & Water

414

93.88%

 

 

 

T. Dough Hydration

93.88%

 

 

 

 

% Whole Grain Flour

85.41%

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hydration w/ Adds

86.07%

 

 

 

 

Total Weight

1,078

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Add - Ins

 

%

 

 

 

Red Malt

5

1.13%

 

 

 

White Malt

5

1.13%

 

 

 

Toadies

15

3.40%

 

 

 

Ground Flax & Sesame Seeds

25

5.67%

 

 

 

Re-hydrated Figs

75

17.01%

 

 

 

Walnuts

25

5.67%

 

 

 

Pumpkin 25 & Sunflower Seeds

50

11.34%

 

 

 

VW Gluten

15

3.40%

 

 

 

Total

215

48.75%

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

75% extraction multi-grain is: 25% kamut,

 

 

 

 25% Farro, 25%, spelt & 25% rye

 

 

 

 

 

DPP baker's picture
DPP baker

This weeks bread was Sesame Poppy Seed Sourdough.

I was really happy with this weeks bread. It has great flavor and really looked great. I used two preferment's to get good complex notes without having a really long rise time. It is a little crazy I have only 3 hours to get 100 loaves out the door most days. I never thought it was possible but I have learned a lot of tricks. I do want to get some banetons so I can have my bread do a long slow rise in the walk in overnight. There isn't a bakery around here that does real sourdoughs with a long ferment. Last week I took 65 loaves of my bread to the local farmers market. The farm team goes every week but for some reason they couldn't sell more than 15 loaves. This week though I sold all 65 and really got to connect with the people in this community. I feel like I am really starting to change people from the white wonderbread superstore bread that we have here. So that is what has gone on this week. 

Next week: maple oatmeal bread.

dabrownman's picture
dabrownman

We decided at lunch time to have sausages for dinner and needed some buns.  I went to the KA web site to get a recipe for some that would be ready in 6 hours max.  I found a no knead recipe to use as a basis but decided to make a poolish with a pinch of ADY.  We put the whole wheat in the poolish to get it wet as long as possible and put half the honey in the polish too.

 

After 2 hours we mixed everything else in and did 10 minutes of slap and folds.  This is pretty wet dough at over 82% hydration.  It eventually came together so it was not sticking on the counter.  We did 2 sets of S& F’s at 15 minute intervals and then let the dough rest for 20 minutes before shaping into 4 hot dog buns and 2 thin hamburger buns.

 

We let them proof or 2 3/4 hours on the counter on parchment, on the mini oven’s vented top of the broiler pan, in a trash can liner.  We mixed melted bitter with cream to brush on top and into the 350 F mini oven they went ready or not.

We baked them for 9 minutes on the bottom and then moved them to the top and rotated them while turning the temperature down to 325 F, convection this time.   They didn’t brown as much as we though they would but they tested done at 200 F so we took them out and brushed them with the creams butter mixture again..

 

I didn’t get any pictures of them coming out of the oven because the girls were starving but I did get a picture of the left over Boudin sausage left over and the 2 hamburger buns.  These could have proofed about an hour longer but dinner had to be served.  The buns were soft and moist and tasted great though.  No one complained which is unusual around here.

 

The hamburger buns didn't go to waste.  Yummy with grilled fries, some veg and a salad!

Poolish Pinch of ADY

Build 1

Total

%

Bread Flour

37

37

11.38%

Whole Wheat

38

38

11.69%

Water

75

75

23.08%

Total

150

150

46.15%

 

 

 

 

Poolish

 

%

 

Flour

75

23.08%

 

Water

75

23.08%

 

Hydration

100.00%

 

 

 

 

 

 

Levain % of Total

23.58%

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dough Flour

 

%

 

White Whole Wheat

50

15.38%

 

AP

200

61.54%

 

Dough Flour

250

76.92%

 

 

 

 

 

Salt

6

1.85%

 

Cream 125 & Water 25

150

46.15%

 

Dough Hydration

60.00%

 

 

 

 

 

 

Total Flour

325

100.00%

 

Cream 125, Water 100

225

69.23%

 

T. Dough Hydration

69.23%

 

 

% Whole Grain Flour

11.69%

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hydration w/ Adds

82.62%

 

 

Total Weight

636

 

 

 

 

 

 

Add - Ins

 

%

 

Butter

25

7.69%

 

Egg

55

16.92%

 

Total

80

24.62%

 

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