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barnkeeper47's picture
barnkeeper47

"King's Loaf" holiday bread recipe NOT "King's Cake"!

In the 1950s my mother got a recipe for a yeast bread made in a circle with the ends 'folded' to resemble folded hands in prayer. The King's Roll has lots of candied fruits and ground up nuts and cinnamon with a light sugar glaze on top. It was normally baked at Easter and the Christmas holidays. This yeast bread is called "King's Roll." It is NOT the same as the "king's cake" found in so many southern bakeries. Many thanks.

Barnkeeper47

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ayukwardhanie

Bagels too chewy

hi, i'm indonesian so bagels are not very popular here in my country. we rarely find some (even starbucks didn't have it regularly). so today was my 3rd time making bagels, my 1st and 2nd ended up with both unpleasant exterior look but tastes good anyway. it has that right saltiness and enough chewiness (altho i'm not sure t'was the right texture for bagels tho). today i kneaded by hand, used the exact same recipe and boiled the same way as it was yesterday, surprisingly i has that gorgeous "clean" look, enough brownish on it's crust but with VERY VERY CHEWY even my teeth couldn't cut it off instantly like you eat regular bread. it become super rubbery, you need efforts even to just tearing it off (by hand), not to mention by teeth. question is, am i REALLY doing it wrong? what kind of "chewy" texture it supposed to be like. fyi, since i kneaded by hand, i know the dough was rather tough (you know, not that kind of "regular" bread dough") maybe it needs more water hence it was TOO CHEWY? boiled one side for 2 minutes and 1 min on the other side. am i boiling too long?

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nmygarden

Happy Baker

Hi All,

A brief post to share today's bake, a SD multigrain loaf (and a BIG one at that) with a bit of spice to it, plus olives and roasted red peppers. Flours and grains combined AP and BF, whole rye flour, barley flakes, and wheat germ, plus add-ins including multicolor quinoa (cooked), stuffed green olives and roasted red peppers (and the olive oil they were cooked with). I used Old Bay Seasoning (at 2.5%) for the salt and extra spices.

This may have been the largest loaf I've made - dough weight >2K. My cloche dome wouldn't have possibly covered it, so I fashioned a cover from aluminum foil - worked just fine. Baked 20 minutes covered @450 F, then 40 minutes uncovered @425 F.

I'm very pleased with the result - the crumb is soft and open, the crust is thin, but has some chewiness to it, and the flavor is well-rounded and savory. If I try this one again, I'll probably scale it back a bit, or divide the dough into smaller loaves.

Happy baking, Everyone!

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BigHungryBelly

Two loaves of the most sour sourdough bread I've ever baked

I started baking bread about 3-4 months ago, and started baking sourdough almost 2 month ago. I've been loving it -- the process and obviously the products :)

I made two loaves this morning. I think because the levain was entirely whole wheat and was fermented at a high temperature (83F), these two loaves are exceptionally sour. I don't think I've ever had any sourdough bread (homemade or store bought) as sour as these two. One loaf was retarded for 8 hours, and the other 12 hours, but I don't think there is a noticeable difference between the two in terms of taste.

 

 

 

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bread1965

HOL-E'r

Well, this is my sixth attempt at making a more open crumb per Trevor's book. I'm not getting the wide open crumb Trevor does, but I'm enjoying some mighty good breads along the way. This is this weekend's bake.. first the pictures.

This loaf was made with 100g of 100% hydration AP flour starter at peak, 200g water, 285g flour (70% bread flour, 30% whole wheat) and 6g fine sea salt. I gave the flour an hour autolyse before adding the starter and salt. I gave the dough three sets of stretch and folds thirty minutes apart. Aside from the initial mixing of the starter into the flour/water, the three stretch and folds sets were each four simple quarter turn of the bowl stretch and folds. I tried to build structure but keep it gentle.

From adding the starter I let it bulk for a total of almost seven hours to get it to a double of the dough.  I then tried to pour the dough onto the bench as gently as possible, but it deflated somewhat. I gave it a simple and gentle pre-shape and let it rest for ten minutes. I then shaped and loaded it into a basket. But I could also tell that the shaping process deflated the dough as well. I think next time I'm going to dramatically reduce bulk and leave most of the expansion to happen in the basket to reduce touching the dough after most of it's rise. Let's see if that helps. I loaded it in the the fridge for about 10 hours before the bake this morning. Here's the crumb..

The crumb is gently moist, has good body to it and great mouth feel. It's a very nice bread.. I'm getting there..

Bake happy.. bread1965!

 

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Uberconfused

rublibrot

Is anybody familiar with Rublibrot and have a recipe they could share?

I discovered Rublibrot while living in Stuttgart, and I've been dreaming of having it again. 

 

Here's what it looks like:

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chleba

Starter may be proteolitic (?), can it be saved?

Hi:

My starter may be proteolitic (?) based on what I've read.  Do you all think it's possible to fix this?

My bread doesn't seem to bulk or proof properly at all, resulting in limp dough.  This is the third starter that's doing this!  Very frustrated.  I've tried using a small innoculation (as small as 5% to dough flour), and as high as 20%, and ranged temps between 65-85. With smaller innoculation and colder temps, the bakes are dense, flat, gummy.  With larger innoculations, I varied time and temp, I get dough that spreads out, has some crumb, but is not airy at all - I've been sticking to 68% hydration, 1.7% salt.  Crust is a bit pale with higher innoculations, but not always.  Flour is good flour - I've been using central milling flour ordered from their website (few on hand, the type 70 and the artisan bakers), or organic KABF.  Most of the mixing is done on low speed in a viking mixer for 5-6 minutes, medium-ish gluten development.

Starter:

100% rye starter using vitamix milled whole rye berries.  I kept it fed 1:2:2 over two weeks at 85F, and had it doubling in roughly 4 hours time.  After two weeks, I converted it to NMNF starter.

In each case, I take out a small piece, do the three-stage build of the levain at 80-85F.  It doubles, it floats. 

After several weeks in the fridge, the starter itself smells like isopropyl alcohol.  This aroma is getting to the levain a little bit. 

I really don't want to make another starter.  You all think I can fix this somehow?  I can do more tests, but the fancy flours I've got are expensive, I hate wasting them like this.

It's either this, or my water.  My tap water is a bit on the alkaline side, at 8.2pH.

Thanks for your time!

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Teukros

Sourdough formula for Georgian khachapuri dough?

I was wondering if anyone already had a sourdough formula for the dough for this Georgian cheese pie... the only English recipes on the 'net have amounts in cups and fluid ounces (and they're yeasted).

I don't need the complete recipe, just the dough.

Thanks!

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MattR

Why does it stop rising? Is my starter bad?

My dough seems to stop rising and the result is a rather dense crumb. I've been using the same recipe for quite some time and the last two times it just doesn't rise that much. The starter does fine. I feed it the night before and it does great. I'm using the same amount of salt. Whereas the dough used to do not much for a few hours and then start going these past two times they seemed to start fast and then stop rising. Rather than doubling and then doubling again I get maybe 50% and not much more.

I mix the flours, salt, and water in the evening, and mix in the starter the following morning. The last time I did it I put in the fridge until 10pm, and let it sit out over night (like I saw at the bredworx site). The time before I left it out for two hours and then put it in the fridge until the following morning. After it warmed up I then put in the starter. Both times I take out about 2 tsps of dough after the starter is well mixed in and put it in a graduated shot glass. The sample dough used to do nothing at first and then grow to 7tsps by the following morning. These past two times it gets to about 3 or 4 tsps before it's done.

Is my starter bad?

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bigindianfarm

wholesale banneton baskets

Hey folks,

I have a small on farm bakery and am looking to upgrade my proofing baskets. Anyone know a good wholesale source for bannetons with fitted liners? The only wholesale sources found online are overseas, any luck with these?

Thanks!

Adrienne

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