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northsidebakery

Wholesale Bakery for sale Queens, NY

 

   I am helping a friend sell his turn key artisan bakery. This is a fully operational bakery located in College point Queens. After over 10 years have dedication and work my friend is retiring and is ready to sell his business. At this time the bakery is operating and will be transitioned to the new owner once the purchase is carried out. 

 Queens 5,000 Square foot Wholesale bakery plant set up to manufacture bread rolls and pastries. Fully equipped turn key all permits in place. Rent only $5,500 per month. Low overhead 1,500 of extra space available if needed. To replace this would cost of $350,000 plus wait for permits. Fantastic for bread, bagel or desert company. .

   Equipment:

 14.4 sq meter 4 deck oven with manual loader

 Walk in box 7 x 10 

 Stationary mixer (1 bag capacity)

 2 wooden tables

 Clark 3,000 lb propane fork lift

Racks, pans, baskets trays and shelving

Office and computers

 and more.

 This is a low cost opportunity to own and operate a turn key bakery in NYC with a large market. Please send a message with additional questions.

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DanAyo

How to make Toadies

I’ve searched the site looking for all the info I can find on Toadies. DAB explained it this way. “Toadies are named after a Fresh Loafian (toad,de,b)  who invented them.  Take wheat and oat bran, mix in some wheat germ and sifted unused middlings from home milling and then dry toast them in a skillet until nicely browned then cool and grind them.  Another one of the great flavoring and coloring additives for bread.”

I’m trying to figure out if I need to order some supplies for this. I have a grain mill. Can I grind some wheat and sift out the large bits? Do I need to order wheat germ? What about oat bran and middlings. 

I need an education on this. I think this might be exactly the flavor addition I am looking for.

Thanks

Dan

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seanranney

Structured Online Baking Courses?

I've been baking for a few years and have my sourdough artisan boule type bread down fairly well (at least most of the time).  I'm looking to explore other areas with bread and other baked goods, and looking for a structured online baking course.  I know there are a ton of sporadic youtube videos that show one thing at a time, but I'm more interested in a  class similar to what I would get at a culinary institute that would go step by step through the baking world. 

I'm happy to pay for it, not looking for a free thing.  Any suggestions?  Thanks!!

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Abelbreadgallery

Toasted bran + buttermilk

Toasting any ingredient in your bread is a good way to enhance flavour and aroma. This time I toasted in the pan some wheat bran, and added it to bread flour, creating such as a false "whole wheat flour" with more aroma (the germ is missing). The ratio was 93% bread flour + 7% toasted bran. To hydrate the dough I used buttermilk but you can use any kind of fermented milk. This gives nice acidity to bread and also it's healthy. For fermentation I used 10% levain and some yeast.

Enjoy.

Abel (Mexico)

 

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leslieruf

Country Champlain or Tartine style country loaf - 2nd try

Well, not sure where my head was yesterday, it was perhaps a comedy of errors but I didn't think that as I put the dough in the fridge to proof overnight.  Start at the beginning. Three different bakes, 1 small loaf each. 

Monday 13:30 refresh 60% ish starter 10 g = 20 water + 30 flour

21:30 pm mix three levains and leave overnight on bench.  it was cool overnight - only 18 deg C when I got up next morning/

Tuesday 7 am - put levains in a cooler part of the pantry as I would not need till after lunch.

11:45 am Country Champlain.  Mix together

Bread flour 169 g + 6 g gluten

Fresh milled spelt 67 g

Fresh milled rye 34 g

Water 215 g 

13:45 pm Add 6 g salt and 52 g 100% hydration levain. Stretch and fold until incorporated then approx 10 minutes mixing the Rubaud style

Rest 10 minutes then repeat for another 5 minutes (using left arm this time!) It is now 14:15 pm and left dough to rest.

14:45 pm Stretch and folds * 20

15:15 pm Stretch and folds * 15

15:55 pm Stretch and fold * 9 then 2 more stretch and folds * 5. 

19:00 preshaped dough - it was sticky but  using bench knife managed it, just!

The dough was spreading like crazy and not holding its shape so after 10 minutes, I oiled the bench knife and managed to shape this very poofy dough into a boule - no way could I have done a batard!. Retard overnight 

Baked this morning 250 deg C for 15 minutes lid on, 230 deg C for 15 lid off.

Here it is before scoring and baking. 

Oh dear, another pancake!  But it is light!  This ended up being about 80% hydration, I forgot to account for the water in the 100% levain so it was obviously much wetter/softer than planned.  This is the lead photo

So on to loaf no 2.  Yeast water & sourdough loaf

Monday night I had mixed a poolish (hope that is correct terminology) of 65 g yeast water and 65 g flour.

Tuesday 12:15 pm mixed flours together for autolyse and when I wanted to add water, realised I had added yeast water to it so this would change the plan.  So I threw it out and measured water again, added to the flour and of course it was not sufficient. :( Back to drawing board.  Re calculated recipe based on what I had and so I added extra flour and water at 12:45 pm and could now get a reasonable dough for autolyse

Bread flour + gluten 396 g

Water 194 g

13:35 pm Add levain 35 g (I had forgotten to mix this and luckily had kept left over from evening before so it was 60% hydration)

Yeast water 57 g 

Salt 8 g

Mixed until incorporated.  then left to rest. At 14:00 decided it didn't look mixed enough so I did about 1 minute or so of Rubaud method.

14:30 Stretch & fold * 20

15:00 Stretch & fold * 15

15:30 Stretch and fold * 10 and at 15:55 stretch and fold * 8.  The final stretch and folds *5 were at 17:00 pm

18:00 pm preshaped.  Dough very poofy 

18:20 pm Very soft, hard to shape.  Did just manage to get a not very tight batard.  Into fridge to proof overnight.

This morning when others were baking I popped it into the freezer to firm it up.  Made it hard to get out of the banneton.  Baked 250 deg C lid on for 15 minutes, lid off at 230 deg C for 15 minutes.

This dough ended up being about 80% hydration - I miscalculated when recalculating the formula. No wonder it was hard to shape!!

A bit flat, but it too is light.  Better than I thought it would be.

Finally bake no. 3, a simple 1:2:3 loaf

 12:30 pm yesterday Mix flours and water for autolyse

bread flour 190 g incl extra gluten

Spelt flour freshly milled 67 g

Rye flour freshly milled 33 g

Water 250 g

14:25 pm add 97 g 100% hydration levain and 6.6 g salt.

Stretch and folds to incorporate.

14:25 pm stretch and fold * 20

15:00 pm Stretch and fold * 17

15:30 Stretch and fold * 10

15:55 pm Stretch and fold * 7 leave then 5 stretch and folds at 17:00 pm and 18:00 pm

18:30 pm preshape. - very sticky, hard to shape, 

18:45 pm  final shape.  Could not hold shape of batard so made a boule. Retard overnight.

Baked this morning at 250 deg C for 15 mins lid on, 15 minutes lid off at 230 deg.  When I removed lid, I removed parchment and this was a bit early so the scores closed up again  and it became a bit of a funny shape because I interfered with the loaf. :(

Well after all that, I was a bit down - really disappointed with my bake.  Apart from the YW mix up the mixing and stretch and folds had gone well.  It went pear shaped at shaping.  We couldn't resist by lunchtime so we cut the loaves .  Crumb shots

Top 2 slices - Country Champlain bottom 2 slices 1:2:3 loaf

Ok very pleasantly surprised by Country Champlain. Nice open crumb.  If it had held its shape, I would have been happier.  1:2:3 - crumb is good, but it feels a lot heavier and it is obviously not as open.

Yeast water / sourdough loaf

Now I am pretty happy with this crumb, would have been better if it hadn't spread so much but it was pretty high hydration for me.  I couldn't resist this last shot

At first I couldn't figure it out, why so all were so hard to shape.  I rechecked calculations today and some of the reason is the high hydration.  Too high for NZ flours.  Lesson learned! 

Also going to repeat the 1:2:3 loaf in a week, then 2 weeks using the same batch of milled flour and see if that makes a difference. i.e fresh vs aged flour

Tomorrow I am going to try Country Champlain again - just a small loaf  - two ways.

1. As I did this bake but with much lower hydration.  I have double checked my figures so will try at 74% hydration

2. I have milled the spelt and rye and sifted it.  I will build the levain tonight using the bran and then in the morning some of the sifted flour for the levain and see if this helps too.  This will also be at 74% hydration.

This is such a challenge, so many variables but hopefully I can figure it out.  

 

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Yeast Water

So I've finally been able to find some unadulterated sultanas. It's amazing what cr*p (excuse the French) goes into dried fruit. Is it too much to ask for? 

It's now Tuesday evening and I wish for the YW to be mature by Saturday night to make a levain. What temperature does it need to be? 

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SusanMcKennaGrant

SOURDOUGH BOULE WITH GERMAN TYPE 550 AND ITALIAN FARRO

 

BASIC SOURDOUGH BOULE, 70% HYDRATION, 80% TYPE 550 BIODYNAMIC FLOUR FROM SPIELBERGERMUEHLE AND 20% MACINATO INTERO DI FARRO FROM MULINO MARINO. RETARDED 18 HOURS. BAKED IN A COMBI OVEN ON A BAKING STEEL, WITH THE COMBO COOKER COVER FOR THE FIRST 15 MINUTES. 

THE CRUMB

AND JUST FOR FUN....I HAD ABOUT 150 GRAMS OF DOUGH LEFTOVER AFTER SCALING SO I LAMINATED IT ( (RATHER ROUGHLY) FOR A BREKFAST PASTRY WITH 60% BUTTER, DATE SUGAR, CINNAMON AND RAISINS....IT HAD 3 TURNS. I ROLLED IT INTO A LOG, CUT IT INTO ABOUT 1.5 INCH SLICES AND BAKED IN A SMALL LOAF PAN. IT DISAPPEARED BEFORE I HAD A CHANCE TO TRY BUT I HEAR IT WAS GOOD.  THE LEFTOVER DOUGH AFTER LAMINATIONLAMINATED TREAT

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MontBaybaker

Brands of chocolate chunks (or bars to cut up)

What brands of good-quality chocolate do you recommend for cutting into chunks (unless it comes in chunks/ribbons/discs) for baking cookies, brownies, or a bread like isand66's Chocolate Cottage Cheese Tangzhong?  I did Ian's wonderful bread with Guittard semisweet ribbons (I buy in bulk through a Guittard co-op at wholesale direct from the factory), and whatever bars were in my box.  I'm in CA, would love to buy in a moderate amount of bulk if possible, and not pay a fortune in shipping.  TIA!

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JustJoel

Grano Arso, “burnt wheat flour”

In the course of my research into all things yeasty, I’ve come across a few references for grano arso, literally translated as “burnt wheat.” I’ve found a few recipes that use grano arso, but they’re all for pasta, and I don’t do pasta. Yet. 

I found a couple of articles about pizza with grano arso, but no recipe, or even a hint about how to “burn” the flour, or how much to incorporate into the dough.

The whole idea intrigues me! It looks to be a unique way to add a smoky, nutty flavor to otherwise standard dough. It’s just that the information about it seems to be sparse.

Do any of you have any experience using grano arso? Or a link to anything that can inform and instruct me? My google searches haven’t yielded any great results. And the chat rep at King Arthur Flour doesn't know jack about burning flour (although she was very helpful with another question I had).

I have a sneaky feeling that this may be the next fad in bread making. I wanna be in on it!

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bread1965

HOL-E attempt #4

So this weekend I attempted to create a more open (HOL-E) crumb per Trevor's influence. I made some changes from previous attempts to good effect.

I used 80% bread flour, 20% whole wheat flour, 10% levain (100% hydration) at peak, 2% salt and 70% hydration.

This week on Friday night I mixed the flour, water and levain around 6pm into a shaggy mass and left it out on the counter until about 11pm. Then I put in the fridge. The next morning around 9am I added the salt and over the next two hours gave it gentle folds every 30-45 minutes and a last one about an hour later by noon. Then I left it until about 4pm. By then it just about doubled. I gave it a very delicate pre-shape, left it for ten minutes, and gave it a final shape and left it for final proof for about 90 minutes. Baked in a combo cooker at usual temps (mind you I think my oven is running hot so I burnt the bottom slightly).

I learned a few things this week. But first the pictures:

 

 

 

 

While I'm getting slightly closer to a much more uniformly open crumb - there is much work to be done.

The first thing I realized this week is that I have not been letting the dough develop/ferment enough in bulk and/or final proof.  Next time I'm going to try and take it even further to the edge of fermentation for each stage (but I'm not sure what the maximum expansion is I'm looking for in each stage - do I let the dough double during bulk, and how much more during proof.. not sure - all advice welcomed). And this insight (of not pushing the fermentation far enough) came from a comment Trevor made on an instagram post just his past week, saying that a gummy crumb is the result of a weaker starter and not fully fermented bread. I'm comfortable my starter is strong and active. But I've often felt my crumbs were slightly gummy. So I pushed it further - I would normally only the bulk go to a 50% rise in volume before pre-shaping. Ironically, when I baked through Forkish's book I would oven get to the edge of over-fermented dough with good results - often letting the dough double or more during bulk.  But when I started baking with Chad's Tartine method I dialed it back. I would get great Tartine style loaves with very uniform closed crumb - really great breads. But not anything like what Trevor makes. So I'm going to start pushing fermentation again.

The second thing I learned, is that I need to work on my battard shaping skills!

So the HOL-E war continues! But I think I'm winning the odd hill here and there!  Generally, this was a great tasting and smelling loaf!

Bake happy - bread1965!

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