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RichieRich

Sorry but I'm still confused on when to use my starter.

Sorry but I'm still confused on when to use my starter.  

I keep my starter in refrigerator and feed it once a week. When I want to bake I take it out of the refrigerator and feed it 3 times 8-12 hours apart. After the 3rd feeding I wait unit that peaks a just starts to fall. That is when I start putting my recipe together. This takes some planning so I'm not up in the middle of the night. 

Now I run across this video where the woman take the starter straight out of the refrigerator and right into the recipe, 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POnxAoHl1qc

I have ran across this before where it appears they use the started straight out of the refrigerator. This would be very convenient! 

 

RichieRich

 

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Gwen

Overbaked but still great

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rcoplen

Pre-ferments

What is the deciding factor as to which pre-ferment to use, poolish, biga or pate fermente, or is it personal preference?

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eiriee

Making leaven vs "pure" starter

On a whim a month or so ago I decided to make a sourdough starter and try to make sourdough bread. 6 loaves later (my avatar) I feel like I'm getting somewhere. 

I've been sticking to the one recipe (https://www.thekitchn.com/how-to-make-sourdough-bread-224367) and altering things like whether to prove in the fridge or not.

Thing is, this recipe, and so many other places it seems, calls for me to take 1 tblsp of my starter and make a leaven from it overnight. But I have so much starter (one in the fridge, one on the counter) that I've just been using the pure starter to make my bread. 

So, I am not making leaven. I am calculating how much leaven the recipe says I would need (I often half the recipe) and just use that much starter. 

Is this ok? Should I be using leaven instead/is using straight starter restricting my bread's potential?

woah, the starter I got from the fridge and fed last night and this morning is almost overflowing it's jar! I'd better make something

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DanAyo

Chocolate Malted Barley

I thought it might be interesting to others, so I decided to post this bake. I got interested in malted barley a while back. I was learning about diastatic malt and one thing led to another. Wendy, aka “LazyLoafer”, among others helped my learning process. I went to a local “Home Brew” shop and picked out an assortment of malted grains, mostly barley. It is very inexpensive and I chose the whole grain since I have a home mill. Most, if not all of the malts are non-diastatic.

The chocolate malt (my favorite) in tiny amounts make a really distinct difference in any bread. The color of the crust and crumb are darkened dramatically. The flavor of the bread has a unique mildly bitter unsweetened chocolate, or maybe coffee taste. 

Below is a 78% Tartine. The crust is not burnt, the color comes from the malted barley.

It only takes a tiny amount of malted barley to affect these result. I used 2% of the bread’s flour. The image below shows 10g of fresh ground barley.

Dan

 

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Bred Maverick

Thank You Loaves

I am looking for suggestions for "lovely" sourdough loaves (sweet, savory, or tart) to bake for kindhearted neighbors and friends.

Beyond thinking perhaps 300 grams of flour(s) per loaf, I  can't wrap my mind about possibilities. I suppose I could make long loaves of SD French bread, or round SD boule, but Maybe there is something else that says "thank you".

 I am an experienced home bread baker, own plenty of bakeware and could use the diversion.

TIA

 

 

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mredwood

Sour dough Chemistry

Please someone help. I am looking for an old publication of the sourdough chemistry. I believe it was in 2 parts and in great detail. I thought I had a copy and I thought I would never forget. Can't trust that memory anymore. Maybe the name the author  was Susan but I could be just as wrong as right. I looked all over for quite a while and am getting lost. If you can leave me message that would be great because I may never find it in the posts & replies. I so glad the web sit still exists and people are using it. I haven't baked for quite a while, health has forced a diet change. Yes I miss it. Thank you all in advance. 

 

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melishm76

New to home-milling--loaves are disaster

I am brand new to posting on the forum but have used the site many times for advice. I have found other older posts that have addressed similar problems, but I've still found no solution to my own. I have been making sourdough bread successfully (recipes; trial and error) for almost two years and have always wanted to start milling my own flour. I just purchased the Nurtimill Harvest Grain Mill and have used it on two batches (third is fermenting now). Here are my results:

-Flour is gritty. Has a sandy texture.

-Dough does not hold together

-"Stretch & fold" is impossible as the dough doesn't actually stretch. It just breaks.

-Very little air in dough or final product

-Bread turns out very moist and flat

First, I've wondered if I'm grinding it too coarse. The Nurtimill manual says turn the knob to the left until you hear the stones start rubbing together, then turn it once back the other way so you don't hear them rubbing together anymore. I did this and this is my result. Secondly, I've been using Nature's Earthly Choice Red Winter Wheat. Admittedly, I bought sealed packages from the discount grocery store. Is this my problem?

Any help is appreciated! Thank you!

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Evencrumb

Working with Commercial Convection Oven for the First Time and Other Tips

Hello,

I'm a home sourdough baker baking with dutch oven and a regular home oven. I mostly follow Tartine recipes.

For the first time, I'd like to bake 30+ loaves in a kitchen with industrial equipment (I rented the kitchen), including convection oven and mixer.

I have no idea how baking times work in commercial convection oven. If there is no steam tube, do I have to introduce the steam the same way I sometimes do at home, thetas, pouring water on a pan? Also, is the baking time different?

This is also going to be my first time using an industrial mixer. At home, I do everything by hand. Any tips on using the mixer?

Any other tips and useful info on the baking process will be extremely appreciated.

Thanks!

 

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Sticky_Fingers

Purpose of Bulk Fermentation

I've been baking naturally fermented breads now for the last 6 months or so and a question came to mind over Bulk Fermentation.   Forgive me if this has already been answered -- please just point me in the right direction in that case.

My understanding behind the purpose of Bulk Fermentation is two-fold:  building up the gluten structure and giving the yeast a chance to leaven the dough a certain amount -- average amounts range from 25-50% or even doubling the volume.  The two timing can sometimes be tricky for both goals to be reached at the same time.  Perhaps in one case, the volume has increased but the window-pane test still fails.  The opposite situation could also occur.  Is there any "rule-of-thumb" as to which goal to prioritize?  Does gluten development outweigh achieving a certain desired increase in volume? -- i.e. is it important to extend the Bulk Fermentation until the gluten is ready, or could that potentially cause the dough to over-proof?  If the gluten structure is fully developed but the volume increase is sluggish, is there any danger in the gluten breaking down if you wait until the dough has finished increasing in volume?

Thanks!

 

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