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Following Forkish' recipes but can't seem to get much oven spring - advice appreciated

BreadyMcBreadFace's picture
BreadyMcBreadFace

Following Forkish' recipes but can't seem to get much oven spring - advice appreciated

New to using this site so please let me know if I should post in a different forum! 

I’m following Forkish’ overnight white bread recipe - i’ve very satisfied with the taste and crust, but the loaf seems a bit flat and barely expanded out of the score

Hoping that some experts here will be able to give me a tip or diagnoses with these pictures here

I’ve already:

* made sure dutch oven is on the dot 475˚ using an oven thermometer

* used poke test to gauge optimal proofing (press down about an inch, see the indentation come back up slowly but not all the way

* Gently shaped the dough into a tight ball with a lot of tension

It’s possible that my scoring is a bit too shallow - will work on that next time.

Any other tips?

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fredsbread

What does the inside (crumb) look like? Do you have a photo of the cross-section?

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BreadyMcBreadFace

crumb shot

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Josh_F

I feel indebted to Ken Forkish, as I learned so much from his book and had my first successful loaves with it. However, I too had flat loaves with the overnight and some of his other levain recipes. I believe it is because his bulk fermentation times are quite long (typically 4-5 hours and of course longer for the "overnight" recipes). I believe these long bulk fermentations can easily lead to overproofing and flat loaves. In contrast, Hamelman's levain recipes typically call for 2 to 2.5 hours of bulk fermentation), and after adapting my approach and using shorter bulk fermentation, I have had reliable oven rise with formulas similar to Forkish's levain recipes. See photos, for example. 

 
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tpassin

Those loaves look great!

I want to urge you not to conclude flat out that 4-5 hours bulk ferment is too long.  They just turned out to be too long for *you*, your flour, kitchen, and techniques.  I routinely bulk ferment for 6 hours or longer (not necessarily with these specific recipes).  What's so good about what you've done is that you were willing to deviate from a presumably solid recipe until you found variations that work for you.  Everyone should take note!

TomP