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Whole grain sourdough

Peter.granger4's picture
Peter.granger4

Whole grain sourdough

I made this sourdough yesterday and baked it this morning. I really feel like it’s the best whole grain I’ve made to date.

It’s 30% whole grain that I milled at home with my new Komo Grain Mill. I used 10% each hard spring red, 10% hard spring white, and 10% soft spring white. I’m not sure why I used those ratios but it seemed right at the time. The other 70% is King Arthur AP. I went with 80% hydration over the usual 75% for my go to sourdough. Bulk rise time was 7 hrs vs 5 hours. All other variables were the same that I’ve come to like. The final proof was 12 hours in the fridge. I like this for two reason. Number one is flavor, flavor flavor. Number two is the ease of handling when scoring and transferring to the Dutch oven.

I’m pretty excited about the results and want to keep making adjustments on time, hydration, temp., etc. How do I get the same or close to the same rise and crumb? I’ve read some other tips on other baking sites but they all lack the personal story element. And that what I like most about The Fresh Loaf. 

I’d appreciate any stories about early adventures with home milled sourdoughs. I still have a lot to learn. Good thing I treat every loaf I make as a tasty stop on the bread baking journey. 

Cheers!,

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idaveindy's picture
idaveindy

I've been home milling for a few years, and was baking 50+% whole wheat before that.

my findings:

fresh home  milled flour is more oily than store-bought whole wheat. So I use less oil/milk.

You will likely need a tad more gluten to build the gluten network around the bran particles. Bran "cutting" gluten has been demonstrated to be false, but the net effect is the same -- it interferes/blocks the gluten network.  therefore, you need to work the dough a bit more (the mechanical action developes gluten), and/or maybe add VWG, or use at least a small percentage of white flour. So, I would advise against the less-gluteny soft wheat.

KA AP is high, 11.6% protein, but other brands of AP are closer to 10%.  So if you ever use another brand, use the other brand's Bread flour.

Whole wheat is just plain going to give a less puffy crumb than an all white flour loaf.  But you can do work-arounds as best one can.  Mine are: 2 hour autolyse (no leaven, no salt).   Get the right combination of mix/knead and stretch and folds to _develop_ the gluten network.  Do what you think is under-proof to get a good oven spring.

Also, I autolyse only the whole wheat, not the white flour.  my home-milled flour is coarse, so I want to give it a chance to get the water absorbed before the white flour gets it.  

Once you get your hydration percentages "dialed in", you'll recognize the phase where the soaker/autolyse looks over-hydrated, because it has not absorbed the water yet.  Then when you add the salt (either before or after levain and any white flour), it temporarily looks underhydrated until the dough relaxes.

Whole wheat flour, especially fresh milled, ferments faster than white flour because the extra enzymes in the bran make sugar quicker out of the starch.  So the  higher the percentag of WW, the less starter/levain I use.  At 90% WW, I do about 7% prefermented flour for a same day bake, or 3.5% for an overnight bulk ferment or proof.

I'm currently doing 90% home-milled whole wheat loaves, with 10% white flour.  A 1200 g 86-88% hydration dough ball/boule fits in the deep pot portion of my 3.2 qt Lodge combo cooker.  If I use the skillet/lid part, I can get up to 1630 g of dough in it.

My 90% loaves need to sit uncut for 20 hours to develop the flavor that I like.

Using hard white wheat berries, as opposed to hard red wheat berries, thereby getting a lighter colored crumb, "hides" the percentage of whole wheat from your white-bread-loving friends who may be averse to whole wheat.  Some people get scared off by the darker color crumb. My loaves are mostly from white wheat berries, and Kamut, which is yellow.  So my loaves don't look as if they are 90% whole wheat.

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I've become somewhat of a whole-grain snob and evangelist.  So I like to spread the word that with whole grain flour from white wheat berries, and the right procedures (autolyse, hydration, stretch/fold, timings, long bakes, etc) you can make "near" 100% whole grain bread that most white-bread-loving people will find acceptable.

Peter.granger4's picture
Peter.granger4

Thanks for the tips. I'm going through my bakers log and noticed that I've been conservative on increasing hydration percentages; and I haven't been trying longer autolyse times. I'm going to use some of thes techniques this weekend. Can't wait! Cheers