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Pre-Ferment and long retard

Jane Dough's picture
Jane Dough

Pre-Ferment and long retard

I'm going to make Hamelman's Country Bread.  But I would prefer to alter the schedule and put the shaped loaf in the fridge for a long retard - minimum 8 hours - for convenience's sake.  I haven't used pre-ferments or poolishs to any extent.

My question is is there any reason that would rule out a long retard of a loaf made with a 12-16 hour pre-ferment?  That means that with a 50% pre-ferment a good percentage of loaf will have a very long retard. 

dabrownman's picture
dabrownman

preferment you want to use.  For sourdough i use 10% levain for a 12 -18 hour retard depending on the recipe.  Using a poolish instead of SD but the cold really slows down the yeast too.  Getting it right for an exact 8 hour retard will take some experimenting.

Don't know if this helps you or not?

Jane Dough's picture
Jane Dough

It reminds me that I can't make changes to the process without making a change to the finished product.  And that I don't have a lot of experience with predicting what I need to do to be successful while initiating change.  I think I will first follow Hamelman's instruction as provided and see what the loaf should be like.  I wanted to bake a yeast bread and this seemed like a good choice.   I'm getting a bit snobby about baking with my own lovely starter.  

I've only begun to experiment with different retarding times and amounts of levain and the results can be quite dramatic.  I have read your posts re long retards and the explantions.   I really think I have to quit my day job because I need more time!  The reason I posted the question in the first place is because I tried to make a loaf the Forkish way.  What a disaster.  I had a bucket of glue on my hands.  There was no coming back from that one.  And I think it was the difference in time and temperature that I didn't really pay mind to.   Not much else it could be really.  

Anyway thanks for your comment.  I'll spend a little time planning this out.