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Durum Tangzhong Sourdough

Isand66's picture
Isand66

Durum Tangzhong Sourdough

      I was in the mood for a nice Durum loaf and figured I would use the Tangzhong method to lighten it up a bit.  I've used this method for rolls several times but not on an actual loaf.

I have to say this simple recipe turned out amazing with a nice thin crust and moist and open crumb.  This is one of those breads you can just eat with some butter or cheese or olive oil and call it a day.

I highly recommend you give this one a try.  It makes great toast, grilled bread and sandwiches or goes well with some "Italian Gravy"!

Last week was our Lexie's first birthday and Max's second so we celebrated on Friday with a doggie cake.  Both puppies loved their cake :).

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Durum Tangzhong Sourdough (%)

Durum Tangzhong Sourdough (weights)

Here are the Zip files for the above BreadStorm files.

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Tangzhong is the technique of heating a portion of the flour and liquid in your recipe to approximately 65C to make a paste (roux).  At this temperature the flour undergoes a change and gelatinizes.  By adding this roux to your final dough it will help create a soft, fluffy, moist open crumb.  It is also supposed to help prevent the bread from going stale.

It is not very difficult to do a Tangzhong.  Use a  5 to 1 liquid to solid ratio (so 250g liquid to 50g flour) and mix it together in a pan.  Heat the pan while stirring constantly.  Initially it will remain a liquid, but as you approach 65C it will undergo a change and thicken to an almost pudding like consistency.  Take it off the heat and let it cool before using it in your recipe.  Some people will refrigerate it for a while but you can use it right away as soon as it cools.

Levain Directions Build 1 (Using AP Starter at 66% Hydration for Seed)

Mix all the levain ingredients together  for about 1 minute and cover with plastic wrap.  Let it sit at room temperature for around 7-8 hours or until the starter has doubled.  I used my Proofer set at 81 degrees and it took about 4 hours.

Main Dough Directions
Prepare the Tangzhong per directions above and allow to cool to room temperature.

Mix the flours, Tangzhong and water together in your mixer or by hand until it just starts to come together, maybe about 1 minute.  Let it rest in your work bowl covered for 20-30 minutes.  Next add the salt, oil and starter (cut into about 7-8 pieces), and  mix on low for a minute.   Mix for a total of 6 minutes in your mixer starting on low-speed and switching to speed #2 for the last 2 minutes.  Remove the dough from your bowl and place it in a lightly oiled bowl or work surface and do several stretch and folds.  Let it rest covered for 10-15 minutes and then do another stretch and fold.  Let it rest another 10-15 minutes and do one additional stretch and fold.  After a total of 2 hours place your covered bowl in the refrigerator and let it rest for 12 to 24 hours.  (If you have a proofer you can set it to 78 degrees and only leave the dough out for 1 hour to 1.5 hours before placing in the refrigerator).

When you are ready to bake remove the bowl from the refrigerator and let it set out at room temperature still covered for 1.5 to 2 hours.  Remove the dough and shape as desire and cover with a moist lint free towel or sprayed plastic wrap. 

The dough will take 1.5 to 2 hours depending on your room temperature.  Let the dough dictate when it is read to bake not the clock.  Note: I used my proofer set to 80 degrees and it took a little over an hour to be ready.

Around 45 minutes before ready to bake, pre-heat your oven to 550 degrees F. and prepare it for steam.  I have a heavy-duty baking pan on the bottom rack of my oven with 1 baking stone on above the pan and one on the top shelf.  I pour 1 cup of boiling water in the pan right after I place the dough in the oven.

After 1 minute lower the temperature to 450 degrees.  Bake for 35 minutes until the crust is nice and brown.

Let them cool on a bakers rack before for at least 2 hours before eating.

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Comments

dabrownman's picture
dabrownman

durum semolina lends to the finished crust and crumb.   That crumb looks very airy too.  Has to be a great  sandwich bread too.  Happy Birthday to the Canine apprentices and now Lucy wants to know where here cake has been these last 10 years :-)

We are weeks 3 of out fresh milled flour test to see if using the flour in the first 3 weeks makes any difference.  Your bread looks great as usual, well done and

Happy Baking Ian

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Isand66

Thanks DA.

Sorry for getting you into hot water with Lucy....:(  Both doggies enjoyed their cake and wanted to send a piece to Lucy but I fear it would be stale by the time it arrived....

I really love the way this one came out and the Tangzhong method really works well.

Look forward to this weeks bake from you and Lucy.

Regards,
ian

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trailrunner

I started using the durum after you mentioned it here. I believe I got it from the same source . I love it. Got a LOT and still have a lot :) Your bread looks lovely. Will have to give it a go . I made a version of your cheesy rolls and used whey and a  bunch of other goodies. When grilled they taste like a fine pastry. You are my "go to" for ideas. 

Have you tried shaping straight from the fridge ? Saves the extra couple hours to warm up and then shape and rise and the yeasts don't work those extra hours. Just a thought. I haven't seen any difference in the final crumb or flavor and have been doing it for some time. c

Isand66's picture
Isand66

Thanks!

I'm so happy I could inspire you.  Where did you get your Durum from?  Mine is from KAF and it's not cheap.

I have not tried shaping directly from the fridge before letting it warm up a bit.  I have thought about trying it your way and will have to give it a go and see.  Probably would just need a longer rise after it's shaped to compensate.  I use my proofer usually and only let it warm up for 1 hour so it's not a big deal.

Regards,
Ian

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trailrunner

Breadtopia. I got 30 # !! It was $27.00 + shipping. Since I am in AL it was $46 all together. I thought that was a good price. They grind it right before they ship it. Lovely product. I have stored it in the freezer and have had no problems with it. 

As to rise after cold shaping. I let it go about 2-3 hrs after shaping...your rule of letting the bread direct the rise works well. I just do room temp so whatever that is. I have had my crumb on the breads and rolls to be indistinguishable from the rise after shaping warm. Give it a go and let me know what you think. c

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Isand66

Looks like my comment got swallowed up.  I will check them out again.  Last time the shipping to NY was way too expensive but I really do love their product.

I will definitely try your method soon and let you know how it turns out.

Regards,
Ian

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Isand66

Even with the shipping which is expensive if I buy the berries it ends up being $1.60 a pound which is cheap.  The milled flour from KAF is way more.  They don't have any of the flour instock right now, but I want to try milling it myself anyway.  Thanks for reminding me.

Ian

emkay's picture
emkay

I love semolina/durum in sourdough breads. There's just something about that golden color that seems to add something special. Happy birthday to Max and Lexi! I'm sure they had no troubles finishing off that cake. 

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Isand66

Appreciate your comments as always and best wishes to Max and Lexi.  They did enjoy the cake :).

FrenchNyonya's picture
FrenchNyonya

Wow great bake!! Always though it might look like a sandwitch loaf with very thin crust and fluffy crumbs but yours turn out really nice and airy. A must try!!

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Isand66

Glad you like it.  Please let me know how yours turns out.

Regards,
Ian

Isand66's picture
Isand66

Glad you like it.  Please let me know how yours turns out.

Regards,
Ian

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Janetcook

Hi Ian,

Beautiful loaves.  

A question about the tangzhong… I love the sesame seeds on the crust.  Compliments the crust color perfectly.

I have always understood that 'they' are used as a means of incorporating more moisture into a IY loaf so that they stay fresh longer.  I see from your formula that used a WY leaven rather than IY.  I know WY keeps breads fresh a long, long time so I am wondering why a tangzhong as well???  

Take Care,

Janet

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Isand66

Hi Janet, thanks for the comments.

The tangzhong is also supposed to provide a lighter crumb so I wanted to try it with the sourdough levain and see what happens.  It definitely did help lighten the crumb up a little.  How much I am not sure but it was a fun experiment and the bread tastes great.  I've already finished off one of the loaves and I'm sure the second one will not last long :).

Happy Baking,

Ian

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Kiseger

That's a real beauty inside and out!  This goes on my list, just  love that yellowness (is there such a word??) and the airy crumb, must be delicious.  The doggie cake is brilliant, happy birthday Max and Lexi! 

Isand66's picture
Isand66

Thank you for your kind words.  I hope you give this one a try and let me know how it turns out.  Your family will not be disappointed especially if you pair it with a nice lasagna for instance :).

Max and Lexi say thank you very much for the birthday wishes.

Regards,
Ian