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Risking being struck by lightning from the Dark Side, Lucy came up with another white bread this week.  This one was bit different since it had 20% pre-fermented flour – in the summer – twice as much as usual.  It also had a 1 hour bulk ferment before shaping and no retard of the dough two additionally unusual processes.

I suppose it just shows how variable sourdough bread baking can be.  This one did have a bran levain made from 9 sprouted whole grains and the levain was retarded after it doubled after the 3rd stage but only for 3 hours since the 3rd stage was 9 hours instead of 3 like it should have been.

The levain had peaked and was in the process of falling when we tossed it in the fridge – we fell asleep and it was left on the counter till 5 AM - nearly overnight.  In this case the sprouted flout was almost, but not quite all in the levain


The levain didn’t seem to care that is was ignored and mistreated.  When we took it out of the fridge the next morning and stirred it down, it quickly doubled again in one hour as the dough flour and water was autolyzed with the salt sprinkled on top.  Perhaps the larger feeding, nearly double, of the 10 g of NMNF starter allowed it to keep itself ready and raring to do its job.

The bread ended up being 25% whole sprouted grain with the remainder being 1/3 high gluten from Smart and Final and 2/3rds bread flour from the Winco bins.  The 9 grains were: spelt, red and white wheat, oat, buckwheat, rye, emmer and Kamut – our recent 9 grain mix.  Overall hydration was a very low 72%.

Lucy's favorite is Pie - in this case: mango, plum, blueberry, white nectarine and white peach - Yum!

Once the levain hit the mix we did 50 slap and folds to mix it all together and get the gluten development underway in earnest.  We did 2 more sets of 10 slap and folds – all on 20 minute intervals.  Then we did 2 sets of 4 stretch and folds on 30 minute intervals.  Then the dough rested for an hour before pre-shaping and shaping.

We placed the dough in a rice floured basket for proof.  The dough proofed for 40 minute before we started the preheat of the oven to 500 F.  This dough was really moving fast during bulk and proof due to the high amount of levain and the 80 F kitchen temperature.   By the time the oven hit 500 F with the combo cooker inside the dough was 95% proofed – a bit more than one hour after shaping.

We un-molded the dough and slashed it quickly in a square and placed it into the combo cooker.  After 18 minutes of steam at 450 F we removed the lid and continued baking at 425 F convection for 6 more minutes before removing the bread from the bottom of the cooker to finish baking it on the bottom stone.  6 minutes later it was nicely browned and tested 208 F.

The dough sprang, bloomed and blistered nicely under steam and we expect the crumb to be open, moist and soft since there weren’t huge amounts of add ins to get in the way of holes this time.  We started the sprouts on Wednesday at 1 PM and the bread hit the cooling rack at 1:45 PM on Friday afternoon – a 48 hour sprouted, home milled SD – about as quick as you can get all the work done.  Now we wait for the crumb shot. The crumb came out soft moist and open and the crust went soft as the bread cooled.  it has a very noticeable tang too,  Yummy!

And donlt forget that smked chicken 


20% pre- fermented flour, bran sprouted 9 grain levain @ 100% hydration


25%  Sprouted whole grain

37.5 % High gluten flour

37.5% Bread flour

72% water

2% salt

Lucy loves a great salad and any kind if Mexican food.  In this case Green Chili Chicken Quesadilla and Enchilads

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2016 Dabrownman’s Blog Index

1/1/2016 - New Year’s Eve Pizza – 2015

1/5/2016 - Westphalian Pumpernickel – 1537

1/8/2016 -  3 Starter Italian Olive Bread with Rosemary and Sun Dried Tomato

1/15.2016 - 100 % Rye with Rye Berry Scald, Walnuts, Sunflower, Pepitas and Aromatic Seeds

1/22/2016 - Dobie'a Challenge, Black Lager, 3 Starter, Sprouted 11 Grain, Sorta Ciabatta Rolls with Wheat Sprouts in a Baked Scald

1/29.2016 - 4 Starter Sprouted 7 Whole Grain Sandwich Bread

2/5/2016 - Deja Vu – Intensively Mixed Redox of 4 Starter Sprouted 100% Whole Multi-grain

2/11/2016 -

2/19/2016 -

2/26/2016 -

3/11/2016 -

3/16/2016 - Oh My! 3 Pies and a Green Crocodile!

3/25/2016 - Beer Tang Seed Zhong Half Whole Sprouted 9 Grain SD with Baked Scald

3/31/2016 - 3 Grain Sprouted White Sourdough with Sprouts Added In

4/8/2016  - 100% WG Rye & Wheat Sprouted YW/SD w/ Walnuts, Prunes, Cranberries & Sunflower

4/15/2016 - Altamura Style Whole Sprouted 6 Grain Sourdough with Bran Levain

4/22/2016 - Half Whole and Sprouted 7 Grain SD with Quinoa and Buckwheat Porridge

4/29/2016 - Almost, if you forget the 12 hour levain build, 1 day 6 Grain SD bread

5/6/2016 - 50 Percent Whole Grain Half Sprouted Jewish Deli Rye with Caraway and Minced Dried Onion

5/13/2016 - BBD #83 - 50% Whole 10 Grain Half Sprouted Beaujolais, Brie and Salami SD Rolls With Pistachios

5/18/2016 - 14% Whole Sprouted Grain YW Cocktail Loaf with a Bit of SD and GF Porridge

5/19/2016 - 9 Grain 50 Percent Whole Grain Half Sprouted Sourdough Chacon with Pepitas and Sunflower Seeds

5/27/2016 - 9 Grain 50 Percent Whole Grain Half Sprouted Sourdough Chacon with Pepitas and Sunflower Seeds

6/3/2016 - Seedy, Sprouted, Bran Levain, 11 Grain Sourdough with Toadies and Figs

6/13/2016 - BBD #84 - Six Sprouted Grain Sourdough With Toasted Buckwheat Porridge

6/18/2016 - 100 % Whole & Sprouted Grain, 60% Rye with Minced Onion, Aromatic and Sunflower Seeds, Prunes Mango and Walnuts

7/2/2016 - What is This Anyway?

7/8/2016 - Walnut, Cranberry, Sunflower Seed, Sprouted 8 Grain Sourdough

7/16/2016 - Nelson Mandela Challenge Bread

7/22/2016 –  David Snyder Gives Lucy the Sourdough White Bread Willies

7/29/2016 - Wow, Another White Bread – Sort’a


1/1/2015 - New Years Eve Pizza

1/2/2015 - 50 % Whole Grain Sprouted 8 Grain SD/YW with Japanese Black Rice & Seeds

1/9/2015 - 50 Percent Whole Sprouted 16 Grain SD with Lake Havasu Desert Magic IPA

1/16/2015 - Sprouted Sourdough White Bread - A New Style SFSD

1/23/2015 - Lucy Takes Another Shot at Not So Tzitzel Like Sprouted Rye

1/30/2015 - Tête du Désert Vide de Lucie Sud-ouest Germées 5 Pain au Levain

2/6/2015 - Sprouted Ancient Grain Valentine’s Day DaBialotta’s

2/12/2015 - 100 % Whole Grain Kamut With 14 % Sprouted

2/12/2015 - 50 % Whole Grain Kamut 2 Ways with Malbec Kamut Risotto or Seeds & Prunes

2/12/2015 - Nothing Bread - 100% Unbleached Yeast Water White Bread

2/13/2015 - SD Sprouted Wheat Bread with Weird Scald

2/20/2015 - 4 Grain Sprouted Sourdough with Altus, Scald, Toadies & Porter - Going Darker

2/27/2015 - 100% Whole Spelt SD w/ 50% Sprouted Flour, Spelt Sprouts & Baked Scald

3/6/2015 - Lucy’s 5 Grain Sprouted Practice Sourdough Slash Bags with Scald

3/13/2015 - Lucy’s Practice Sprouted and Scalded Slash Bag - Take 2 - with a Boule too

3/16/10`5 - Cousin Jay’s Sprouted, Multigrain Sourdough with Flax Seed Scald

3/20/2015 - Sprouted Whole Multigrain Sourdough Bread with Malted scald & Pizza Kicker

3/27/2015 - Whole Sprouted 9 Grain Sourdough Bread with Walnuts and Sage

4/3.2015 - Sprouted 3 Grain Sourdough with Pecans, Cranberries and Malts

4/3/2015 - 3 Sprouted Grain Poolish Hot Cross Buns

4/10/2015 - Sprouted 4 Grain, Cheese, Jalapeno, Polenta and Baked Scald Sourdough

4/10 2015 - Yeast Water Hot Dog Buns

4/17/2015 - Sorta Altamura Style Sprouted 4 Grain with Desert Durum, Seeds and Baked Scald

4/24/2015 - Sprouted 4 Grain Sourdough with Baked Scald and Guinness

5/1/2015 - 3 Day Old Rye Starter Makes a fine Sourdough the Old School Way

5/2/2015 - Old School Dark Sprouted Pumpernickel Sourdough – 2 ways

5/8/2015 - Sprouted Wheat and Rye Sourdough The Almost 1.2.3 Way

5/15/2015 - Real Bread Week - Spreading 40% Sprouted Whole 4 Grain Bread with Sprouts

5/22/2015 - A Request for Bread

5/29/2015 - Fig, Anise Sprouted 10 Grain Sourdough

6/5/2015 - Sprouted 4 Grain Sourdough - 60% Whole Grain

6/12/2015 - Sprouted 4 Grain Sourdough - 100 % Whole Grain

6/15/2015 - Yeast Buns with Rosemary, Sun Dried Tomato, Caramelized Onion & Mushrooms

6/19/2015 - Sprouted Kamut Sourdough - 75 % Whole Grain

6/27/2015 - Really Dark Old School Sprouted Pumpernickel – In memory of Barbra

7/3/2015 - Braune Mann aufgegangen mehrere Korn Sauerteigbrot für Unabhängigkeitstag

7/10/2015 - Double Levain SD with 5 Sprouted Grains

7/17/2015 - Bereit sind, arbeiten Sie hart und Opfern Sie viel Auswuchs Sauerteigbrot

7/24/2015 - Olive and Fig 9 Sprouted Grain Sourdough

7/31/2015 - Sprouted 4 Grain Sourdough - 50% Whole Grain with Pecans and Cranberries

8/7/2015 - Double Levain Sprouted 4 Grain Sourdough with Seeds

8/14/2015 - Sprouted 4 Grain Sourdough White Bread with 40 Hour Retard and Yogurt Whey

8/21/2015 - Sprouted 4 Grain Sourdough White Bread With 21 Hour Retarded Bulk Ferment

8/28/2015 - 50 Percent Sprouted 4 Grain Sourdough with Dates, Walnuts and Guinness

8/28/2015 - SD / YW Combo Starter White Bread

9/4/2015 - Star Wars Sprouted Sourdough

9/4/2015 - Star Wars Sourdough Sandwich Slims

9/7/2015 - Yeast Water Labor Day Weekend Pizza

9/11/2015 - Lucy Combines 2 Dark Ways On A Dark Day – Westphalian Pumpernickel

9/18/2015 - 10 Grain Sprouted Sourdough

9/25/2015 - Double Levain 100 % Whole Wheat Half Sprouted At 100 % Hydration

9/28/2015 - Make Clour, or is it florn, Tortillas and Skip the Flour and Corn Ones

10/2/2015 - Ancient World Meets New One in Seeded Sprouted Sourdough

10/5/2015 - Nico’s Sourdough Pizza Crust and Focaccia

10/8/2015 - Sprouting and Malting Primer

10/9/2015 - High Extraction Sprouted Sourdough – Finally A Sort Of Real White Bread

10/16/2015 - World Bread Day 2015 - Sprouted Westphalian Sourdough Pumpernickel

10/22/2015 - 1849 Gold Rush Sprouted 12 Grain Sourdough Fruit Cake III

10/30/2015 - Bran Soaker Water Sprouted Multigrain Super Sour White Sourdough

11/6/2015 - 50 Percent Whole Sprouted 6 Grain Bran Soaker Super Sour Sourdough & Yeast Buns

11/13/2015 - YW SD Sprouted Multi-grain Bagels – 50 Percent Whole Grain

11/20/2015 - Sprouted Kamut and Wheat Sourdough with Filberts and Pepitas

12/03/2015 - Latvian Sprouted Saldskaaba Maize – Sprouted Sourdough Cider Rye

12/11/2015 - Germés pain au levain rustique avec les graines de lin

12/18/205 - Lucy’s Witch Yeast Fig and Pistachio Ancient Grain Bread

12/27/2015 - Cooked Potato Starter White Bread

12/30/2015 -Witchy Potato 6 Grain Sourdough with Seeds and Nuts


1/1/2014 - New Year’s Panettone - 2014

1/3/2014 - YW SD Spelt and White Whole Wheat Miche

1/5/2014 -  Saturday Night Pizza - 1/4/2014

1/7/2014 - YW SD ADY Poolish, Tang Zhong Rosemary, Sun Dried Tomato & Parmesan Buns

1/10/2014 - 28 % Whole Multigrain Sourdough with Corn, Potato, Farina and Oat.

1/12/2014 - Saturday Night Calzones – or are they Stromboli’s?

1/17/2014 - Go Tang Zhong Sour Cream, Seeded, Aromatic Sourdough Buns

1/18/2014 - Toady Tang Zhong Multigrain Sourdough Boule

1/23/2014 - Yeast Water and Poolish 42 Percent Whole Multigrain Walnut and Pistachio Bread

1/24/2014 - 50 Percent Whole Multi-grain Sourdough

1/31/2014 - 60 Percent Whole Multigrain Sourdough with Sprouts, Seeds & Yogurt Whey

2/1/2014 - 16 % Whole Multigrain SD with Sesame, Flax and Chia Seeds

2/7/2014 - Dark Russian Jewish Rye Bread with Porter, Prunes, Nuts and Aromatic Seeds

2/14/2014 - Lucy’s Take on Josh’s Version of Pane Maggiore On Valentines Day - 2 Ways

2/20/2014 - Lucy’s Take on Adri’s Westphalian Rye

2/28/2014 - Un-Smoked Spelt Sprouter with Turkish Figs, Seeds, Aromatics & Some Nuts

3/5/2014 - Poolish Calzones and Yeast Water Italian Bread

3/7/2014 - White SD Bread

3/14/2014 - St Paddy’s Day Challenge YW Shamrock on a !00% Whole Wheat SD Chacon

3/21/2014 - Too Pooped To Pop - 56.5 Percent Whole Multigrain Sourdough

3/26/2014- 107% Whole Grain 8 Grain Sourdough

4/4/2014 - 50 Percent Whole Grain 10 Grain Sourdough – One with Cranberries and Seeds

4/6/2014 - Poolish Naan

4/11/2014 - Plotziade Sourdough Chacon

4/13/2014 - Yeast Water Poolish Pizza

4/15/2014 - Lucy’s Take On Wolfgang Puck’s Passover Gefilta Fish

4/17/2014 - Banana Bread

4/18/2014 - Sourdough Hot Cross Buns - 50% Whole Grain

4/19/2014 - Pizza Civitavecchia

4/20/2014 - Last of the Easter Sourdough Bakes Turns Ugly in a Tasty Way

4/21/2014 - Re-Do of the Last Easter Sourdough Bake for BBQ

4/22/2014 - Sacaduros - 46 Percent Whole Grains

4/23/2014 - Half Whole Grain SD Garlic Naan, Onion and Cilantro

4/25/2014 - Seeded Sourdough Multigrain Chacon

5/2/2014 - Everyday 7 Grain Sourdough

5/6/2014 - Cinco de Mayo - 2014

5/9/2014 - Getting Ready for Ploetziade 2

5/16/2014 - Boule and Pumpernickel for Plotziade 2

5/23/2014 - 10 Grain 50 Percent Whole Grain Sourdough - Back To The Old Sourdough Ways

5/26/2014 - Memorial Weekend Pizza - 2014

5/30/2014 - 67% Whole 10 Grain Baguettes

6/6/2014 - Spelt, Farro, Rye and Wheat Sourdough – 50% Whole Grain

6/9/2014 - Italian Yeast Water Buns

6/11/2014 - Italian Style YW Pizza

6/13/2014 - No……. Not Those Pharaohs

6/17/2014 - Calzones and Triple Levain Madness

6/20/2014 - Götz von Berlichingen Ancient Age Sourdough Bread

6/23/2014 - Yeast Water Whole Grain Breakfast Rolls w/ Snockered Fruit and Dark Chocolate

6/27/2014 - Lucy’s Take on Einstein’s Swabian Potato Bread - Schwäbisches Kartoffelbrot

7/4/2014 - 4th of July – 15 Grain Independence Sourdough Challenge Bake

7/11/2014 - 3 Sprouted Grain SD with One No Sprout

7/14/2014 - Lemon and Corn Pie - Old Southern Favorite - Chess Pie

7/18/2014 - Sprouted Multigrain Potato Sourdough with Spelt, Rye, Emmer and Wheat

7/23/2014 - Pesto and Sun Dried Tomato Multigrain Pizza Focaccia

7/25/2014 - 6 Grain Fennel and Fig Sourdough

8/1/2014 - Sprouted Pa de Pagès Català Sourdough

8/8/2014 - Sprouted 4 Grain Sourdough Chacon with Whey, Walnuts and Sage

8/15/2014 - Lucy’s Sorta Tzitzel Like Sprouted Sourdough

8/22/2014 - No Knead Sprouted Spelt, Barley & Potato Sourdough

8/25/2014 - Poolish Pizza Without Daughter

8/20/2014 - Sprouted Spelt, Barley, Rye and Wheat Sourdough with 5 Seeds and Brazil Nuts

9/11/014 - Spelt and Wheat Sourdough with Figs, Pistachios, Pumpkin and Sunflower Seeds

9/18/2014 - 20% Multi - Whole Grain Sourdough - Lucy's 44 Hour Fat Bags

9/19/2014 - Lucy's Fruit Stupid -Version 2

9/23/2014 - Knishes

9/25/2014 - Porter, Prune & Walnut Multigrain SD Bread with a No Fruit No Nut Potato Water Version

9/28/2014 - Pie Parade

10/1/2014 - Cherry Yeast Water Buns.

10/3/2014 - Cherry Yeast Water Sourdough Italian Bread with Apricots, Seeds and Nuts

10/10/2014 -Cherry YW Sourdough Italian Boule with Apricots, Seeds and Nuts - Version 2

10/16/2014 - Yeast Water and Poolish Pizza

10/16/2014 -11 Grain, YW / Sourdough Enriched Buns

10/17/2014 - 11 Grain, YW / Sourdough Chacon with Apricots, Seeds and Nuts - Version 3

10/23/2014 - Lucy’s YW & SD Holiday Fruitcake

10/30/2014 - Multigrain SD Sprouted 2 Ways

11/7/2014 - Sprouted Multi Farro SD

11/26/2014 - Thanksgiving Sourdough Bread for Stuffing

12/5/2014 - Multigrain Sourdough Sprouter

12/12/2014 - Ancient Grain Sprouted Sourdough

12/19/2014 - 50 Percent Whole Grain 25 Percent Sprouted Porter SD

12/26/2014 - 50 Percent Whole Grain 25 Percent Sprouted 9 Grain SD with Whey


1/4/2013 - Panettone - The Last Bake of 2012

1/4/2013 - New Year's Day Pizza and Banana Bread Cupcakes

1/5/2012 - Hanseata’s Sausage Filled Puff Pastry with Cheese

1/7/2013 - Multi-grain Cream Cheese Sourdough with Multi-grain Scalded Soaker

1/11/2013 - Multi-grain Sourdough Chacon with Olives, Sun Dried Tomato, Garlic, Rosemary and 2 Cheeses

1/16/2013 - Multi-grain Sourdough with Sprouts, Scald, Seeds, Nuts and Prunes

1/17/2013 - Multigrain Yeast Water Bread with Sprouts, Scald, Seeds, Nuts and Prunes

1/23/2013 - White Whole Wheat with Combo YW, Poolish, SD Starter, Water Roux and Wheat Berry Scald

1/25/2013 - SD, YW, Biga, Rye, Spelt, Tang Zhong Bread with Scald, Seeds and Nuts

1/30/2013 - Practice YW Slash Bag

1/31/2013 - Origami Sourdough and Yeast Water Panettone

1/31/2013 - Another Batch of kjknits English Muffins – 12.5 % Whole Wheat

2/1/2013 - Fun With Short Crust and Puff Paste

2/1/2013 - Phil’s Savory Pumpkin and Feta Pie

2/2/2013 - A Born Loser Tells a Tale of Too Many Two’s and the Evil Twin

2/3/2013 - Superbowl Pizza – Great Pizza For a Lights Out, No longer a Blow Out Game

2/3/2013 - It's Been Exactly a Year Since Our First TFL Post - The Index

2/5/2013 - Multigrain SD/YW Brown Bread with Aromatic Seeds and Multi-Grain Scald

2/7/2013 - Big Combo Levain Whole Wheat Bread with Pumpkin & Sunflower Seeds

2/11/2013 - Not So Pink Valentine Vienna Chocolate Rose

2/13/2013 - Sourdough Pink Valentine Hamburger Buns

2/15/2013 - Yeast Water Cinnamon Rolls

2/18/2013 - Multigrain SD Altamura - Not The Priest's Hat

2/21/2013 - Banana Bread

2/26/2013 - Old Dough VS Levain Multigrain SD With Bulgar and Flax Seed Scald

2/28/2013 - 100 % Whole Grain Rye and Spelt YW SD with Scald and Seeds - The Altus Test

3/5/2013 - SD YW Durum, Ricotta Bread with Pistachio Nuts, Pumpkin & Millet Seeds

3/12/2013 -

3/13/2013 - SD YW multi-grain Bagels

3/17/2013 - Enchanted Irish Lemon Curd Fairy Cakes

3/18/2013 - St. Paddy’s Day Feast, Sort of Ballymaloe 100% WW Brown Bread and Irish Ruben’s

3/20/2013 - If Ballymaloe Baked Sourdough Brown Bread with WW Scald & Guinness in a DO

3/23/2013 - WW SD YW Multi-Grain Pumpernickel

3/25/2013 - 50% Whole Wheat Matzoh

3/30/2013 - Hot Cross Buns - 25 % Whole Grain

3/31/2013 - Poolish & Y W Chocolate Walnut Easter Babka with Streusel & Snockered Fruits

4/2/2013 - 100 Percent Whole Multi-Grain Aroma Bread with 2 Soakers & 11 Seeds

4/4/2013 - Whole Grain DaPumpernickel Aroma Bread

4/8/2013 - Two Way 75% White Bread - DaPumperized with Scald and Seeds

4/12/2013 - Italian Tang Zhong, Fig, Hazelnut & Ricotta Cheese Sourdough Chacons

4/14/2013 - Dinner for 2 from the Pots

4/19/2013 - Fig Water, Multigrain, Apricot, Walnut, Whole Wheat Sprouter

4/24/2013 - Tang Zhong, Ricotta, Scalded Multigrain with and without, Cranberries & Pecans

4/30/2013 - They Call Me Mellow Yellow

5/3/.2013 - I Got the No White Bread Blues

5/5/2013 - Happy Cinco de Mayo - Breakfast Lunch and Dinner

5/7/2013 - Lucy's Jewish Deli Rye - Take 1

5/15/2013 - Dark Russian Jewish Deli Rye with Porter, Onion, Sprouts and Aromatic Seeds.

5/16/2013 - Whole Wheat and Spelt Sourdough with Sprouts and Seeds

 5/17/2013 - Friday Pizza Night

5/21/2013 - SD and YW Emperor Franz Joseph Buns with Same Dough Challah

5/24/2013 - Multigrain SD with Japanese Black Rice, Seeds, Prunes & Dried Edamame

5/24/2013 - YW & Poolish Hot Dog Buns

5/30/2013 - Ezekiel's Chacon

6/6/2013 - Multigrain Sourdough with Scald, Seeds and 3 Nuts

6/10/2013 - White Hamburger Buns Turned Dark

6/14/2013 - Multigrain Combo Levain with Seeds & Sprouts

6/18/2013 - It all started out simple enough

6/21/2013 - Everyday Multigrain Sourdough with Scald

6/25/2013 - Yeast Water, Tang Zhong Hot Dog Buns

6/28/2013 - Buttermilk and Greek Yogurt Multigrain SD with Seeds and Sprouts

7/5/2013 - Snails with Tails

7/8/2013 - Yeast Water and ADY Hot Dog Buns

7/12/2013 - Multigrain Caramelized Pickled Veggies, Parmesan, Flax & Sesame Seeds, Barley Boil & Toadish Sourdough

7/19/2013 - Whole Multigrain Sourdough Loaf

7/21/2013 - Saturday Night Pizza

7/26/2013 - 75% Extraction Mulit-grain Sourdough

8/2/2013 - Prince George's Chacon

8/9/2013 - Sourdough Tzitzel

8/12/2013 - Yeast Water 70% Whole Grain English Muffins

8/14/2013 - 100 % Whole Multi Grain, Yeast Water & Sourdough Bagels

8/16/2013 - 99.89% Whole Grain Sesame & Flax Seed Sourdough with Whey

8/22/2013 - Too Fast - Poolish Cream Butter Buns

8/23/2013 - Multi-grain Sourdough with Figs, Walnuts, Whey and 4 Seeds

8/26/2013 - Lucy’s Fruit Stupid - Nutella, Peach, Plum and Plantain Pizza and No Fruit Bagels

8/28/2013 - Lucy’s Take on Cleo’s and Ian’s Hamburger Buns

8/30/2013 - Multigrain Sourdough with Sesame and Flax Seeds Toadies and Malts

8/31/2013 - Three Levain Friday Night Pizza Night - With a Surpise Ending

9/4/2013 - Happy Rosh Hashanah – A Holiday Challah

9/6/2013 - Tzitzel – Take 3 with Triple Levain

9/6/2013 - For those who wanted "Aunt Beverly’s Sweet and Hot Brisket'

9/7/2013 - Meat Week

9/11/2013 - Yeast Water 35% Whole Wheat Hamburger Thins and HD Buns

9/13/2013 - Pistachio, Prune and Pumpkin Seed Multigrain Sourdough with Malty Toads

9/20/2013 - Hanseata Multigrain SD YW and Sunflower Seed Challenge Bread

9/27/2013 - The 100% Whole Grain, Multigrain - Mashed by Melon Test - 3 Ways

10/4/2013 - Whole Multigrain SD Bread with Scald, Seeds and More Aromatic Seeds

10/7/2013 - Multigrain Old Sourdough Makes 2 Retarded Pizzas

10/11/2013 - B…..B….B…. Babka - the Yeast Water Way to Gugelhuph Land

10/11/2013 - Prunish Multigrain Sourdough with Scald and Seeds

10/14/2013 - Poolish Buns the Girls Actually Like and Smoked Brisket Sandwiches

10/17/2013 - Mice Guarding the Punkin

10/18/2013 - 20% Whole Grain 9 Grain Sourdough

10/18/2013 - Pumpkin Nutella Swirl Bars

10/25/2013 - Lucy is Runner Up with Her Mice Guarding the Pumpkin Entry

10/25/2013 - Same Dough Two Ways with a Pizza Crust Later

10/27/2013 - Saturday Night 6 P’s SD Focaccia Romana Pizza

10/29/2013 - YW Primer

11/1/2013 - Owlloween White Buns made with a Poolish & SD Levain

11/1/2013 - 38 % Whole Grain Multi Grain SD with Sprouts, Pumpkin and Sunflower Seeds

11/6/2013 - What is the Best Thing You Can Put On Pumpernickel?

11/9/2013 - 15 % Whole Grain SD and YW Orange, Cranberry Walnut Bread

11/15/2013 - Almost Twin White Breads - One YW / SD and One SD

11/15/2013 - YW & SD 50% Rye with Scald, Onions & Young’s Double Chocolate Stout

11/17/2013 - Lucy’s YW White Bread for Thanksgiving Croutons

11/22/2013 - Mini's 100% Hydration Rye, Walnut and Seed Bread with Soaker Water & Dopplebock

11/22/2013 - CeciC’s Crackers with Added Yeast Water.

11/25/2013 - Two Thanksgiving Pies and the Blog Index

11/30/2013 - Josh’s Thanksgiving and Hanukkah Stollen

12/6/2013 - Big Levain Multigrain Sourdough with Figs, Seeds, Potato & Poolish

12/7/2023 - Sinclair’s Bakery Potato Rolls - Made With Poolish

12/12/2013 - Half Whole Multi-Grain Sourdough with Fax & Sesame Seeds

12/12/2013 - Christmas Chocolate Chunk Cherry Chacon

12/12/2013 - Holiday Puff Paste Heath Bar and Chocolate Chip Rugelach

12/17/2013 - Not So Stollen – Christmas 2013

12/19/2013 - 3 Christmas Fruit Cakes - One For Everyone

12/21/2013 - Friday Night SD YW Pretty Plain Pizza

12/22/2013 - Panettone Forced English Muffins

12/23/2013 - White SD YW Bread with Walnuts for Christmas Turkey Stuffing

12/25/2013 - Christmas Fruit Cake – SD YW Gold Rush Take 2

12/26/2013 - Arizona Christmas Tree and Blog Index


2/3/2012 - My first bread after joining TFL - DSnyder's San Joaquin

2/3/2012 - Brachflachen Mehrere Vollkombrot

2/3/2012 - Loaded Pizza

2/3/2012 - Pierre Nury meets DSnyders SFSD

2/3/2012 - Putting the Rye in Pierre Nury's rustic Light Rye

2/3/2012 - Too Many Red Pears and Blueberries

2/3/2012 - Make your own Greek yogurt

2/4/2012 - Minneola / Apple Yeast Water Semolina Bread

2/4/2012 - Raspberry SD Pancakes

2/4/2012- 1930's Magnalite Wagner Ware Roaster Used As Cloche for Multi-grain SD Challah

2/5/2014 - Sourdough English Muffins

2/5/2012 - Southwest Hummus Anyone?

2/5/2012 - I have some miscellaneous baking and foodie

2/7/2012 - Brachflachen Mehrere Vollkombrot - Version 4

2/7/2012 - Baked off PiPs (Phil's) new post on 40% Sourdough Rye w/ Caraway today

2/9/2012 - The Chellos - that don't play music.

2/9/2012 - PiP's 40% Rye w/ Caraway Meets Hanseata's Seeds and a Restless dabrownman

2/9/2012 - Whole Wheat Crusted Apple Caramel Galette w/ fresh ginger and assorted bourbon dried fruits.

2/9/2012 - Blueberry SD pancakes this time,

2/10/2012 - How to Make Yogurt - 'So Your Muffins Taste Betta'

2/10/2012 - isand66's SD Avocado Bread Meets Its Sunflower Seeded Guacamole Heart

2/11/2012- I Confess My Deepest Darkest Baking Secret

2/13/2012 - isand66's Bacon, SD, Potato, Onion with Cheddar Bread Meets Pork Jowls, Aged White Cheddar, Potato Flakes and Caramelized Onion

2/13/2012 - Shiao-Ping's Orange Turmeric Pain au Levain with Yeast Water

2/14/2012 - Happy Valentine Cupcakes w/ Strawberry Hearts

2/16/2012 - PiPs Walnut and Sage 100% Whole Wheat.

2/17/2012 - Let's Make Some Fresh Cheese

2/17/2012 - Birthday Chocolate Crusted Orange Cheese Cake with Ganache, Truffles and Chocolate Shavings

2/18/2012 - David Snyders' SD Pugliesi Capriccioso With Some WW and Rye

2/22/2012 - teketeke's Japanese Yeast Water White Sandwich Bread - 'This Bread Is Not Your Slimy Old White Slice'

2/23/2012 - Pips Vollkornbrot - Nearly 100% Rye with A Tiny Bit of Spelt

2/24/2012 - teketeke Bread

2/27/2012 - Rustique Pain Comté de San Francisco

3/1/2012 - Chad Robertson's Country SD - Modified

3/1/2012 - I've been working on a new home made Gas Regeneration BBQ /Smoker

3/3/2012 - Miscellaneous stuff at the end of the week

3/5/2012 - Pain Rustique au Levain du Sud-ouest

3/6/2012 - Pain Rustique au Levain du Sud-ouest - Retarded

3/7/2012 - Yeast Water, Rye, WW, Garlic Chive, Onion, Cheese and Chorizo Bialy’s

3/12/2012 - Tartine Everyday Rustic Country Sourdough

3/14/2012 - St Paddy's Day Dutch Oven Sourdough - Tartine Method

3/14/2012 - Corned Beef and Cabbage - 2 ways - possibly more

3/15/2012 - Just look at the pictures my new old camera takes!!

3/17/2012 - Yeast Water, Glazed, Spiced, Walnut, Bourbon Fruit, Chocolate Chip, Almond Granola Streusel Polish Babka

3/23/2012 - Making Red Rye Malt

3/24/2012 - Gingered, Tres Apple, Almond, Vanilla Granola Crisp with Bourbon Dried Fruit

3/29/2012 - A Blend of Seigle d’Auvergne and Borodinski

3/29/2012 - Jam and Bread Crust and Crumb Color

3/31/2012 - Revising isand66's Bacon, Potato, Onion with Cheddar Sourdough Bread

4/1/2012 - Getting Ready for Tomorrow's Sweetbird Buckwheat Apple SD Bake with Buckwheat SD Pancakes Today

4/2/2012 - Dabrownman Butchers Sweetbird’s Lovely Buckwheat, Apple and Apple Cider, Buckwheat Groat Bread with Insane Thoughts and Deeds

4/9/2012 - Super-grain Challah w/ Whey Water, Sprouts, Potato, Lentil, Sunflower Seeds and 2 Starters - SD and YW

4/10/2012 - Retarded Super-Grain Challah

4/14/2012 - Lemon Curd and Cream Cheese Puff Paste

4/14/2012 - Italian Corner - Cellos with Squash Lasagna and David Snyder's Pulgliese Capriosso

4/15/2012 - 20% Rye and WWW Potato SD Baggies Meet the Same Made with YW

4/15/2012 - Weekday Springtime Yeast Water Breakfast at Dabrownman's

4/17/2012 - Apple and Pear, Bourbon Dried Fruit, Ginger with Apple Jam Cream Cheese Puff Sleds

4/19/2012 - Sweetbird's Apple, Buckwheat with Groats, Insanely Modified, Makes for a Fine Toast or Lunch

4/20/2012 - SD Hemp Bags - txfarmer method with Hanseata's Seeds

4/20/2012 - Tired Monday's - YW 20% Whole Grain Bag Lunch

4/30/2012 - 50% Multigrain SD W/ Rye Scald, Rye Sprouts, Borodinski Altus and Pepitas, Caraway and Flax Seeds

5/2/2012 - Yeast Water Fake Pretzel Rolls

5/4/2012 - With Cinco de Mayo Yesterday - Hope You Had a Happy One! Cinco Sunset, Moon Rise and Dinner

5/8/2012 - Multi-grain SD w/ Multi Sprouts 2 Nuts and Seeds Somewhere

5/9/2012 - Yeast Water Hamburger Buns with Cinnamon Roll Same Dough Kicker

5/11/2012 - 1 - Day Multi-Grain Bread, Soft White Wheat, Spelt, Scald and Seeded with SD and YW Combo Starter

5/12/2012 - Banana Bread Cake

5/14/2012 - Mothers Day YW Apple, Pecan Buckwheat Pancakes with a Nice Chicken and Brie Sandwich for Lunch

5/15/2012 - Altamura Shaped Semolina Multi-Grain SD with Seeds and Sprouts

5/16/2012 - Having the daughter

5/18/2012 - Semolina, Rye, WWW Ciabatta w/ Chia Seeds, Herbs and Sun Dried Tomato

5/20/2012 - Apple Strawberry Ginger Crisp, Teriyaki and Lunch for Two

5/22/2012 - txfarmer's Croissant and Dainish Converted over to SD and YW - 3 Ways with Chia Seeds

5/24/2012 - Pretzel Roll P&J and Grilled Chicken Lunch with Pickles

5/25/2012 - Hanseata’s Wild Rice SD w/ Yeast Water, Multi Seeds, Prunes, Beer and Sprouts

5/26/2012 - Brown Plate Special with a Little Green, Brown Ale and Brown Bread

5/28/2012 - T-Rex Meets Floyd’s Sweet Potato Bread & Brownman’s SD & YW Combo Starter

5/29/2012 - Bread Baskets - A Serious Illness Revealed

5/31/2012 - Recent Breads for Lunch, Last Jacaranda Bloom and Desert

6/1/2012 - 40% Whole Multi-grain SD and YW Altamura Style Chacon

6/1/2012 - 24 Hours of Not Baking Bread

6/8/2012 - The SD / YW Chacon Revisited – 90% Whole Grain, Multigrain Sprouts, Walnut and Sage Paste, Pumpkin Seeds and Whey Water

6/9/2012 - Friday night P & P - Pizza and Pide

6/12/2012 - Let's Have Some Lunch and Other Stuff

6/15/2012 - Jasmine Tea, 50% Whole Multi-Grain SD & YW Durum Atta Bread with Wheat Germ, Flax and Chia Seeds

6/19/2012 - Buckwheat 60% Multi-grain YW / SD Bread with Walnuts, Sage, Flax, Wheat Germ, Apples, Prunes and Groats

6/21/2012 - Sourdough Durum Atta Bread – Pharaoh’s Mastaba Style

6/24/2-12 - Twisted Sisters Chacon : 67% Whole Rye & Wheat with Sprouts & Seeds.

6/28/2012 - Franko finally got to the top of the list

6/29/2012 - English Muffins - kjknits Converted to YW and SD Combo levain

6/29/2012 - Without Cheesecake For Desert - There May Be No Need for Bread

6/30/2012 - SD and YW Semolina Cheese Bread and Pizza with Sun Dried Tomato, Rosemary, Mojo de Ajo and Garlic

7/4/2012 - SD and YW Multigrain Bagels - The Stan Ginsberg Method

7/4/2012 - Catching up on some lunches and other stuff

7/4/2012 - Lunches and Other Stuff Continued - Happy Birthday America!

7/5/2012 - YW Naan with Paneer, Green Onion, Cilantro, Garam Masala and Garlic - Plus a Loaf - Added Lunch Shot

7/6/2012 - Joe Ortiz Pain de Champagne with Rye and WW Sprouts

7/10/2012 - Dinner in Houston

7/15/2012 - AZ Monsoon and Breakfast

7/17/2012 - Mocha Chocolate Chip Brownie Ice Cream Sandwiches.

7/20/2012 - What To Eat With That Rustic French Country Sourdough Bread -Smoked Etouffee!

7/22/2012 - SD YW English Muffins - Some Fried As Donuts Per gmabaking With Apricot, Nectarine Ginger Glaze

7/24/2012 - Herbed Bialy's – Multigrain, Caramelized Onion, Chorizo and 4 Cheeses

7/27/2012 - 50% Rye SD Knotted Rolls With Wheat Germ, Barley Scald, Caraway and Sunflower Seeds

7/27/2012 - hanseata's Wild Rice Bread Revisited - 'The Wild One' - w/ Beer, Sprouts, Seeds and Prunes

7/30/2012 - Parade of Sandwiches and Other Stuff

8/5/2012 - YW vs Desem SD - Caramelized Onion, Basil, Bacon, Parmesan Rolls

8/7/2012 - 15% Whole Wheat Bagels with YW and SD Desem Combo Starter

8/11/2012 -YW / SD Olive Bread with Rosemary and Bulgar Scald

8/17/2012 - 100% Whole Grain Rye with Rye Sprouts – YW & SD Combo Starter

7/19/2012 - 25% Whole Wheat English Muffins Revisited - Over and Over Again - kjknits

8/22/2012 - Chacon Catastrophes Moka - Ian’s Mocha Disaster Chacon

8/24/2012 - Multi-Grain SD & YW Combo with Chicken Stock, Soaker & Seeds

8/27/2012 - 35% Whole Grain YW & SD Semolina, Durum Atta White Bread with Soaker

8/29/2012 - Rewind - YW & SD Semolina, Durum Atta, W. Germ, Malts & Honey - Deja Vue

9/2/2012 - Spelt, Rye and Whole Wheat Soudough Boule with Flax Seed, Honey and Malts - A Simple but Tasty Bread

9/5/2012 - 100% Hydration, 100% Whole Grain Kamut Flat Boule with YW and SD Combo Starter

9/7/2012 - Andy’s Roasted Brazil Nut and Prune Bread - Sourdough Variation with WW Scald

9/9/2012 - 8 Hour SD YW Saturday Night Pizza and Friday Shrimp Kabobs

9/14/2012 - 100% Whole Spelt Sourdough at 100% Hydration

9/15/2012 - Happy Rosh Hashanah!

9/20/2012 - 17% Whole Multi-Grain SD / YW Bagels – The Stan Ginsberg Method

9/21/2012 - 57% Whole Grain Multi-grain SD with 20% Seeds and Whey

9/25/2012 -15% Multi-grain Bread With YW and SD Combo Levain

9/28/2012 - 15% WWW Fat Bag with Desem SD Starter ala Ian and Phil

9/28/2012 - English Muffins- YW and SD Levains - 16% Whole Wheat

9/28/2012 - Banana Nut Bread with Seeds, Chocolate and Bourbon Dried Fruits

10/2/2012 - Judy's 45 % Whole Multi-Grain Sandwich Bread

10/6/2012 - 16 % Whole Multi-grain SD Baguettes – txfarmer’s Method only 40 Hours

10/9/2012 - Name Change - Gussied Up Franz Joseph's Emperor Rolls With Seeds

10/13/2012 - Parade of Sandwiches and Other Stuff - Partola Uno

10/14/2012 - Parade de sandwichs et d'autres choses - partie 2

10/14/2012 - Parade of Sandwiches Continues - Part 3

10/15/2012 - Desfile de Sandwiches - Parte 4

10/15/2012 - Parade der Sandwiches - Teil 5

10/17/2012 - World Bread Day - SD Multigrain with Figs, Anise, Pistachios and Sprouts

10/18/2012 - Pierre Nury's Rustic Light Rye with Whole Grain Multi-grain YW / SD Levains and Coffee

10/24/2012 -Tuesday Pizza Night - Crust 3 Ways with 25% Whole Grains

10/25/2012 - San Franciso Sourdough - 15% Whole Grain

10/27/2012 - Extended - SD Starter Experiment - 24 hour Countertop SFSD and a Seeded, Fig and Pistacio

10/30/2012 - Two DO Chacons Couldn’t Be Any Different

11/2/2012 - Two Weeks of Food for Thought - Week one

11/2/2012 - Two Weeks of Food for Thought - Week Two

11/2/2012 - 26% Whole Grain YW / SD Bagels with Sprouts

11/5/2012 - 24 hour 10% Whole Grain SFSD & SD Seeded Fig Bread with Pistachios - 1 g of Starter - No Levain

11/9/2012 - 60% Whole Grain SD / YW Bread With Caraway, Rye Chops, Coffee and Cocoa

11/9/2012 - Prune & Brazil Nut Sourdough with Bulgar Scald, Pumpkin & Sunflower Seeds

11/14/2012 - Not So Stollen

11/16/2012 - Thanksgiving Multi-Grain Marble Chacon

11/20/2012 - SD Stuffing Bread

11/21/2012 - Poolish Stuffing Bread

11/23/2012 - Not So Stollen - Thanksgiving Take

11/23/2012 - Daughter Does French Slap and Folds for Her Poolish Thanksgiving Rolls

11/27/2012 - A Chacon for Eric

12/7/2012 - 75% Whole Grain YW / SD Caramelized Onion, Wild Rice, Sprouts & Baltika Porter Bread

12/14/2012 - Multigrain SD / YW Porter Bread with Roasted Onions, Sprouts, Malts and Seeds

12/17/2012 - Puff Paste Experiments

12/18/2012 - Puffy So Not Rugelach

12/21/2012 - Christmas Sourdough Chacon - Figs, Pistachios and Seeds

12/25/2012 - Christmas Bi-Color Rose - 30% Whole Grain, Pesto and Sun Dried Tomato

12/25/2012 - Not So Stollen - 6 Weeks later

12/29/2012 - 25% Whole Grain Multi-grain Bagels


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As you know, Lucy’s definition of white bread is very specific.  Anything less than 50% whole grain flour is a white bread.  This one, depending on how you classify it, is a white bread at 38% whole grains or a 70% sprouted whole grain bread.

It has 300 g of sprouted spelt, red and white wheat in it but not all was flour since half the Sprouts were folded into the dough whole as an add in.  The remaining flour was Albertson’s, store brand, bread flour which they started putting on the shelf as a new item recently.  There is also 10% flax which is a whole grain and 10% chia seeds which are wonderful little critters but not a grain.

The 3 stage bran levain use 10 g of NMNF stiff rye starter and was 100% hydration using 12.5% pre-fermented flour.  It was retarded for 8 hours after it doubled in volume after the 3rd stage doubled.  When the leavin was warmed up the next day we autolysed the dough flour and water with the salt sprinkled on top for 1 ½ hours


We did 3 sets of slap and folds once the levain hit the mix of 50, 8 and 8 slaps.  Overall hydration was only 75% so it was very easy to handle.  Once the slapping was done we did 3 sets of stretch and folds of 4 stretches each where the wheat and spelt sprouts were added during the first set.

Then the toasted and ground flax and chia gel was added during the 2nd  the seed gel was made with 3 times the seed weight in water.  All gluten development manipulations were done on 20 minute intervals.  The dough went very wet after the gel was added and it took a while for it come around before panning.

After gluten development was done we let the dough rest for 2 hours until it rose 50% under the mixing bowl.  We then pre-shaped the dough and then final shaped it into a pan oval and placed it into a release sprayed, regular wide loaf pan for final proofing.   We haven’t used this pan for some time since we received the Oriental Pullman from Yippee.

We decided not to slash this loaf and slid it into oven between the two stones and put it into a 450 F oven for 20 minutes of Mega Steam.  One the steam came out, we turned the oven down to 425 F convection and baked it until it was near done so we could remove it from the pan and finish baking on the bottom stone to brown the bottom and sides.

When it was well browned and 205 F we removed it to the cooling rack.  Total baking time was 43 minutes.  It smelled lovely while baking even though there weren’t any aromatic seed in it!  It came out very crispy but we will have to wait for it to cool completely to get a crumb shot.  This bread is delicious.  Soft, moist and chewy with those sprouts.  This is one tasty bread for sure and our new favorite white bread.  Just full of tasty seeds.  The crust went soft as is cooled so it sliced beautifully and thinly too.  You can't go wrong with this as your everyday bread.


Bran levain - 100% hydration, 12.5% pre-fermented flour – 1/3 rd each sprouted red white wheat and spelt.

Total Dough

12.5 % each sprouted; red and white wheat and spelt flour

62.5% Albertsons’s Bread Flour

75% water

2% - Pink Himalayan Sea Salt

Sprouted Add In

12.5% each sprouted red and white wheat and spelt berries

Seed Gel Soaker

10% each toasted and ground, flax and chia seeds.

67.5% water

Lucy loves the salad and the plum, peach, nectarine and blueberry galette


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After seeing David’s sourdough white bread post this week, poor Lucy got the willies for it worse than ever.  When you don’t eat much white bread, the ramifications of missing it can be dangerous when the White Bread Willies strike.  I tried to get Lucy back on her trans humanist project since the sun burns hotter every day and it won’t be long before the oceans boil away and we need to be permanently somewhere else – not that she isn’t most of the time anyway.

But she had the WBW’s bad and just wouldn’t think about more important things.  So she came up with one to get her paws back on earth where they belong….. even though the pavement is so hot she burns them every time she goes outside when the sun is out – poor thing – thank goodness for grass that can handle 114 F heat for months at a tie as long as an ocean of water is poured on it every day.  Better to use it before the sun boils it away.  We really need to get that solar oven set up!

This was a simple recipe.  No sprouted grain, only 10 whole grains, a bran levain, plain old water used for the liquid, an overnight 12 hour, retarded bulk ferment made it pretty straightforward.  The 12 whole grains were rye, spelt, white and red wheat, emmer, einkorn, quinoa, oat, barley and buckwheat = 12 grams each.

The 3 stage 100% hydration bran levain was made with the sifted hard bits that came out at 27% extraction and 20 g.  The 2nd stage was added 2 hours later - 10 g of 73% extraction multi-grains with an equal amount of water.  3 hours later another 10 g each of whole extraction multi -grain flour and water were added for the 3rd stage when the 2nd stage had doubled.  The 3rd stage doubled in 2 hours at the 7 hour mark.  The levain ended up to be 10% pre-fermented flour using 8 g of NMNF rye starter.

The remaining 32 g of high extraction multigrain flour and the remaining dough flour, consisting of LaFama AP flour, were autolyzed with the dough water for I hour, with the pink Himalayan sea sprinkled on top.  Once the levain hit the mix we did 30 slap and folds to get everything mixed together and then 3 sets of 8 slap and folds and 3 sets of 4 stretch and folds all on 20 minute intervals to develop the gluten.  We then placed the dough in the fridge for the 12 hour bulk retard.

The next morning, we took the dough out and let it warm up for an hour before pre-shaping and final shaping 20 minutes later.  We then placed the dough in a rice floured basket and bagged it in a plastic shopping bag and let it proof for 30 minutes before retarding it again for 4 hours.  Once the dough came out of the fridge the oven was preheated to 500 F with the combo cooker inside.


We un-molded it, slashed it straight out of Jurassic Park; T-Rex style.  Since this was only a 700 g loaf, we steamed at 425 F for 20 minutes before taking the lid off finished baking it with the fan on for 5 minutes, before removing it from the bottom of the combo cooker and finishing it on the stone.  When we took it out it read 210 F on the inside.


It sprang, bloomed and browned up well with some blistering.  Now we have to wait for the crumb shot later.  This one is very tangy, just the way we like it.  It is very soft and moist and the crust went soft as it cooled too.  It is open but not crazy open so it holds nti butter and jam.  Can't help but like this bread as least as much as you like your inlaws:-)  It made for some fine toast for breakfast and we know it will make great sandwiches for the week.  This is our kind of SDSF for sure.

There is that breakfast and last nights Chicken, bean cheese and grilled veggie enchiladas


3 Stage Bran Levain - 10% pre-fermented flour @ 100% hydration

18% Whole 10 grain

82% LaFama AP

85% hydration

2% salt

How about a nectarine , peach, blueberry and banana Really Deep Dish Pie  To go with that salad

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Many folks don’t know it but Nelson not only was a great man who brought freedom and liberty to his country but he was quite a bread guy too.  One of his most famous quotes was ‘Let there be work, bread, water and salt for all.’  But it didn’t stop there.   He lived on bread and water in prison for years and his favorite folk tale was ‘How Hlakanyana Outwitted the Monster which featured a stolen loaf of bread.


It is amazing how things can change from black to brilliant in one’s lifetime like it did for Nelson. He was born a chief’s son who would end up in prison and then became the father of his country.    You can also do some research on Nelson’s personal chef, who would have thought he would end up with one of those?  His cookbook might have a loaf of Nelson’s favorite bread in it.  Could it be the famous South African Cape Seed Bread?

But, Lucy being Lucy, she decided to go a slightly different path to gain some additional inspiration for her take on Nelson’s bread.  Her first thought after his being black, being noble, being in a dark prison cell for so long and a bread lover, was to try to put some other colors to the man besides black.  She has always loved African fabrics because of their vibrant colors but was unfamiliar with South African ones.


A quick peek on the Internet found many textiles she liked but eventual decided on this one for her inspiration.  The main colors in many SA textiles are red, blue, green, gold / yellow, black, white and gray. So these were the colors she would use to formulate this bread.

The blue and red were fairly easy as we had fresh cherries and blueberries in the dehydrator and some red rye malt in the pantry.  The golden/ yellow grains were easy enough.  The green was pepitas and pistachios and those rye berries have a green tint too.  The black was Boulder Beer’s Chocolate Porter for the dough liquid, some prunes and a double dark rye altus that has chocolate and espresso in it.  The gray was the rye paste and the white was the white malt and Lucy’s teeth which my wife had just brushed.

Nelson’s captivity was symbolized with the Pullman pan enclosing the pumpernickel for so long at steamy temperatures.   This is a 100% whole grain healthy bread which accounts for Nelson’s long life.  67% of the grains are sprouted and 67% are rye.  The remaining whole grains are white and red hard wheat, spelt, Kamut, oat and buckwheat.

It helps to have a good breakfast on Bake Day

The aromatic seeds were black and brown caraway, anise and coriander that were lightly ground.  The non - aromatic toady seeds were black and brown poppy seeds, balk and brown sesame and golden flax that were also lightly ground. 

The 100% hydration, NMNF, bran levain was a 2 stage one with the first stage being the bran that was stirred at the 4 hour mark and the 2nd stage was the 100% hydration, 140 F, 2 hour, baked scald of the red rye malt and 10% of the high extraction sprouted and non-sprouted flour.

The amylase really sweetened up the scald and when added to the first stage of the levain as the 2nd stage, it really perked it up making fo a double in 2 hours.  The levain ended up at 24% pre-fermented flour, a large one, quite sour to boot and just what you want for a near 67% rye bread.

The high extraction dough sprouted and non-sprouted flour was autolysed with the chocolate porter for an hour to get the amylase working ahead of time to break down the starch into sugar - to really help get the dough acidic once the levain hit the mix.  The residual sugar would also produce a dark crumb once the pumpernickel low and slow baking process was finished.  Overall hydration was only 85% and the salt was 2% pink Himalayan sea salt.  This was the baking schedule followed for the low and slow  It came out of the oven at 206 F so it could have been over baked the last hour at 200 F.

Nelson Mandela was a complicated and complex man who had suffered much and seen a lot in his amazing life.  This bread reflects much of what Lucy and I have learned since joining TFL community over 4 years ago – also a complex and complicated journey that was just full of interesting methods and techniques

NMNF rye starter, bran levain build, fermented 6 grains, 3 dehydrated fruits, 5 non aromatic seeds and 4 aromatic seeds for the Toadies, red and white malt, a dark rye soaked altus and a porter autolyse were all part of this bread.  It was all finally capped off with the pumpernickel process.  Nelson was one of a kind and so is this bread crafted in his honor.

Now we have to see what it looks like on the inside tomorrow.  It smelled incredible as is baked and came out nicely hard and brown on the outside.  We wrapped it in plastic after it cooled hoping the crust would soften a bit as it aged for 36 hours.  This bread sliced thin with no gummy parts and not much crumbs produced.  It is one fantastic tasting - just delicious.  Fruity, nutty, seedy and aromatic with that whole grain heartiness.  Made for one fine breakfast of sausage, bacon, fruits , berries and a schmear..


2 Stage bran levain – 100% hydration with 24% pre-fermented flour with the bran at 20% extraction  average with 24% water

33.3% sprouted rye flour

33.4% whole grain rye flour

33.3% Sprouted whole grain red and white wheat, oat, spelt and Kamut

61 % Boulder Beer Chocolate Porter – dough liquid

Baked Scald

1% each white and red malt

9% high extraction sprouted and non-sprouted 6 grain flour - included in above

9% water topped up after baking - not included in above

Add Ins

16.6% Pistachios

16.6% pepitas and sunflower seeds

16.6% dried cherries and blueberries

11% prunes

9% aromatic seeds – black and brown caraway, anise and coriander in the toadies

16.6% non-aromatic seeds – Black and brown poppy, black and brown sesame and golden flax in the toadies

10% dark rye altus with 10% water - water not included in above.

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What an odd Lucy bread, actually 2 in a row, not retarding of the levain or the dough - a 2 day bread including the 18 hours to sprout, grind and sift the 9 grains used for this bread.  The 8 grains were spelt, rye, white and red wheat, oat, buckwheat, Kamut and barley.

The whole grains were all sprouted and ended up at 40% of the total flour.  Hydration was 75% overall.  The levain was 15% pre-fermented flour at 100% hydration that was built up over (3) 4 hour stages using the 20% extraction sprouted bran first.

We autolysed the dough flour and water for 30 minutes with the pink Himalayan sea salt sprinkled on top.  Once the levain was mixed in we did 3 sets of slap and folds of 30, 10 and 10 slaps and 3 sets of stretch and folds of 4 stretches each all over 20 minute intervals.

We incorporated the cranberries, walnuts and sunflower seeds during the first set of stretch and folds.  The dough rested for 20 minute before pre-shape and shaping for the Oriental Pullman pan that Yippee sent me not long ago.  We haven’t had the chance to use it with the lid on before so we thought that this bread would be the first – even though we didn’t size the dough for it


The pan and lid was sprayed with non-stick before the dough was loaded.  We let the dough proof nearly to the rim at the middle, inside a trash bag and then slid the lid on.  We had preheated the oven to 500 F and when the pan went in on a rack between the two stones we turned the oven down to 450 F and baked it for 20 minutes before sliding the lid off.

We then turned the oven down to 425 F and baked it for another 10 minutes before taking the dough out of the pan and finish baking it on the rack to dry out and brown the sides and bottom.  We took the bread out of the oven when it hit 206 F and let it cool on a rack.  Total baking time was 50 minutes about 15 minutes more than a boule of this size would be.

It filled the pan nicely, the lid was only a bit difficult to get off.  It really did brown up nicely and the crust was actually hard.  Hopefully it will soften as it cools like most breads do around here.  We have to wait for the crumb shot.  After cooling dn wrapping in plastic wrap the crust softened very well.  The bread was easy to slice in 1/4" slices sort of like a high % rye bread.

The crumb was not as open as a boule would be, perhaps too much dough for the pan?  It wasn't dense though and made for a fine breakfast toasted with butter jam, sharp Cheddar cheese bacon and egg sandwich with a side of cantaloupe.  This bread was very tasty with the sunflower seeds and walnuts really coming though and bit if sweet but tart cranberry in the background.  Pretty yummy all in all.


Sprouted 3 stage bran levain - 15% prefermented flour at 100% hydration remainder ofr levain was the 80% extraction 9 sprouted grain flour.

8 Sprouted grain 40%

Bread flour – 60%

Water – 75%

Salt - 2%

Sunflower seeds, walnuts and re-hydrated cranberries 

4th of July Bacon Cheese Burger with a Freedom Celebration Berry pie - blue, straw & rasp



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Usually Lucy comes up with a recipe and tells me what to do and then I do my best to execute her recipe wishes as closely as possible or risk having my ankles savaged by a wild beast, small in leg length.  Then I tell you all about it.  This time was a bit different.

Lucy put everything together and she said …..‘OK Master, what kind of bread is this and how was it made?  It’s time to find out if you know your stuff or not or at least to know it well enough to know it when you see it.  Then she showed me the photos and said take your best shot at guessing what this is.

I have to admit that I didn’t do as well as I thought I would but I also thought you all might be better at figuring this out as a group.  So here goes.

What kind of bread is this? What kind of grains and flour were used.  Is it SD?  How was the levain made? Was it autolysed? Was it retarded?   What is the hydration? What is that add-in? How was it made?  Now knowing Lucy helps a lot and watching her recipes over the last several years is full of hints and answers.  So good luck with it.

I’ve decided to pair it with homemade, smoked pastrami that is currently on the smoker for the 4th of July Holiday – Yum!  Happy Birthday America!




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It wasn’t long ago that Yippee sent me an Oriental Pullman Pan.  I immediately put it to good use making a fine rye bread here 100% WG Rye & Wheat Sprouted YW/SD w/ Walnuts, Prunes, Cranberries & Sunflower that Michael Wilson liked.  Michael got to taste it when he visited LA a couple of weeks ago.  It is nice to have a fellow Fresh Lofian get to try some your bread -  especially one like that one.

This bread is similar to Lucy’s previous attempt but has less rye and no red malt or cranberries, but does have fresh mangos in place of some of the prunes. rehydrated onions and aromatic seeds.  We used potato water for the liquid in place of the Black Butte Porter, cut the BMS in half but put some molasses in its place and added some espresso powder to the cocoa to make up for the loss of color due to the omitted porter and red malt.

You can see everything in the mix  except the espresso, cocoa, walnuts and sunflower seeds.

We made a few changes to the process as well.  Instead of making separate YW and SD Bran levains we made a SD bran levain and used YW for the liquid for it.  The levain was 13% preferment flour instead of the previous 19% and instead of 21 hour retarded we went with a 1 ½ hour one while I was at out an about.

The last thing to go in was the sunflower seeds.

We had planned on making a square loaf using the lid of the Pullman but, while out and about, it rose over the rim in the fridge so, after docking with a toothpick. I mounded it up with a wet spatula into a domed top.  We baked it at 450 F for 15 minutes with steam and the turned the oven down to 425 F for another 15 minutes of steam then turned the oven down to 350 F for another half hour of baking;

Then the bread came out of the pan to brown and dry the sides for 5 more minutes of baking till it hit 205 F on the inside.  The 100% hydration levin was made with the bran sifted from the whole rye and wheat and some of the high extraction remainder.  It was a one stage affair but was stirred at the 4 and 8 hour mark.  We retarded the levain for 10 hours overnight after it doubled after the 2nd stirring.

Since 40% of the flour was whole and sprouted wheat, we did do some slap and folds and stretch and folds to get the gluten there was a bit developed and the massive add ins incorporated but it was still a sticky and sloppy mess at 85% hydration overall.  We messed with it 6 times a at 20 minute intervals until we dumped it in the pan for final rising.

It didn’t spring much in the oven but it didn’t collapse either – always a good sign with rye breads.  We have hopes the YW worked its crumb magic to open it up even with all the add ins.  It smelled terrific as it baked the other benefit of using dried onions an aromatic seeds in your rye bread mix.

Cousin Jay is coming over for Father’s Day Sunday brunch so that will be the perfect time to slic it and see what it looks and tastes like.

The bread sliced easily in 1/4" slices.  The crumb was open, soft and moist.  The taste was outstanding.  Nutty, seedy and earthy with a hint of sweetness every now and again and a fine aroma  The YW kept the sour at bay.  A very nice bread all in all - just plain delicious.  Wonderful toasted with cream cheese.  This bread could make you give up bagels.


 Single stage whole grain rye and wheat 20% extraction bran levain – 13% pre-fermented flour, 13% YW- 100% hydration total

30 % Whole rye, 10% whole red wheat, 10% whole white wheat, 30 % sprouted rye, 10% sprouted red wheat, 10% sprouted white wheat

72% Potato water – 85% hydration total with the YW in the levain

22% each, walnuts and sunflower seeds

15% fresh Mango, 7% prunes

2% each; Barley malt syrup, molasses, instant espresso coffee, cocoa, rehydrated dried onion, aromatic seeds (caraway and coriander)

Have get a salad in there somewhere with that grilled Shrimp Kabob Dinner



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Six Sprouted Grain Sourdough With Toasted Buckwheat Porridge – A Great Everyday Sandwich Bread

Bread Baking Day #84 is sandwich bread – hosted here is kochtopf’s monthly bread challenge  Sandwich bread means different things to different people and can even mean different things to the same person over the course of their lifetime.

When I was kid growing up it meant Wonder Bread – for sandwiches at lunch and toast for breakfast.  My dad worked at Continental Bakers in KCMO so we got day old Wonder Bread for free.  Even day old it was just great and a week later still fresh as could be – a real wonder.  It was the king of white, enriched, yeast, sandwich bread – nothing was even close or sold nearly as well.  Kids all over America grew up on it for decades.

With the onset of age, diabetes and learning how to make SD bread, sandwich bread is something totally different than Wonder Bread for me now.  But, one thing remains the same, most all of the bread I make today is still made for sandwiches and toast.  Amazing how some things change like the kind of bread we eat and some things remain the same like eating sandwiches and toast.

Poor health can really make a person change their food choices for the better.  No more white, enriched, yeast, sandwich breads for me – it just is not allowed.  The most important thing for diabetics is to avoid carbs and sugar of all kinds, exercise and use portion control to lower body weight.  After losing 50 pounds by walking 4 miles a day, I can have 1 slice of bread per meal as long as it is the right kind of bread.

The right kind of bread is whole grain, sprouted, sourdough bread that lowers, spreads out and slows down the blood sugar load of yeasted white bread for diabetics.  You still can’t have more than a slice so, if you are like me, you just learn to cut it in half and have half a sandwich for lunch and 1 slice of bread for breakfast toast.

It’s no big whoop since you have to eat less to keep your weight down anyway and exercise is the most difficult to actually do…… especially when it is 115 F outside like here in Arizona.  Still, this bread isn’t really one that would fit the bill.  It is only 30% whole grain.  Even though the whole grains are all sprouted and there is another 10% whole buckwheat in the porridge, at 40%, it doesn’t meet our usual standard of at least 50% whole grains for what we call white, sandwich bread around here.

For many folks, this bread would be a suitable white, sprouted, multigrain, sourdough sandwich bread that would be a healthier and heartier choice for toast and sandwiches.  The 6 sprouted grains were white and red hard wheat, rye, spelt, oats and barley.  Barley is a great choice for diabetics because it has the lowest GI of any cereal grain.  They were sprouted for 21 hours before drying and milling.

The 24% extraction hard bits were used for the 2 stage bran levain where the hard bits were used for the first 4 hour stage and the high extraction 6 sprouted grain flour was used for the 2nd feeding.  The levain was stirred down at the 8 hour mark, doubled at the 12 hour mark and was retarded overnight.  The SD seed was 10 g of 26 week retarded NMNF stiff, rye sour.  The levain was 100% hydration with 14% pre-fermented flour

In KCMO we gew nup eating Wonder Bread with ribs.  But now we can have this bread with them and a salad too!

We stirred down the levain when it was taken out of the fridge the next morning.  The dough flour of the remaining high extraction, sprouted, 6 grain and Winco bread flour, was autolysed with the dough water and 2% Pink Himalayan sea salt sprinkled on top.  We then toasted the 10% buckwheat groats in a dry pan until golden brown.  Then we added twice their weight in water and simmered it for 5 minutes before turning off the heat, covering and letting the porridge cool.


After an hour of autolyse, the levain had risen 25%.  We stirred in the salt and then added the levain to it, stirred it in and did 30 slap and folds to incorporate the levain into the dough and begin the gluten development.  Overall hydration was 75% making the slap and folds just bit stiffer than normal.  We did 2 more sets of 8 slap and folds all on 20 minute intervals.

We did 3 sets of stretch and folds where the buckwheat groat porridge was added during the first set and thoroughly incorporated by end of the 3rd set.  Stretch and folds, of 4 stretches each,  were also done on 20 minute intervals.   After a 20 minute rest, the dough was pre-shaped and then shaped into a squat oval and placed seam side up into a rice floured oval basket.  The dough was bagged and placed into the fridge for a 16 hour cold retard.

Usually the bread fully proofs in the fridge but this one was A bit slow so we let it proof for 2 hours on the counter.  We preheated the oven with the CI combo cooker inside to 500 F. We un-molded the dough onto parchment on a peel, slashed it down the middle lengthwise and slid it onto the CC.  We steamed the dough under the lid for 18 minutes at 450 F.

Once the lid came off, we continued to bake the bread for 5 minutes at 425 F convection and then took the bread off the bottom of the combo cooker and continued to bake the bread on the bottom stone for 10 more minutes until it reached 209 F.  It bloomed, sprang, blistered and browned well.  It was also soft, moist and open on the inside.

The taste was the best part though and the highlight of the bread.  Earthy, hearty and healthy are the hallmarks of sprouted mult-igrain breads.  The Buckwheat Toadies providing the extra aroma and flavor.  As usual, this bread was a bit more on the sour side than a normal white SD bread due to the NMNF starter and the bran levain build.

Iy is almost monsoon season again.

The extra sour really stands up too the full flavor of the sprouted grains and Buckwheat Toadies. I t is about the most delicious white sandwich bread you can make…..and you can’t buy it anywhere so you will have to make it to enjoy this bread with your favorite filling as a sandwich!


2 Stage 12 Hour Levain - 14% pre-fermented flour at 100% hydration made from 26 week retarded 10 g of NMNF stiff rye starter, with 24% extraction sprouted bran for the first build and high extraction 6 sprouted grain for the 2nd build.  Levain is then retarded overnight when it doubles after the stirring down at the 8 hour mark. In our case we made 130 g of bran levain.


30% - 6 grain sprouted flour – red and white wheat, oat, barley, spelt and rye

70% - Winco bread flour from the bins

10% - Toasted buckwheat with 20% water made into a porridge.

2% Pink Himalayan sea salt

All of the bran levain  

Thanks to Job for posting the link to BBD #84


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Most of us realize how tiny and insignificant we are in the scheme of things until it comes to our passions and emotions. Then all hell breaks loose and we instantly want to become the center of the Universe.  I am always telling my young daughter to keep her head even when everyone else is losing theirs.  On humans this sometimes works...... but for Lucy …...not so much.

When it comes to bread recipes, she really is out of her mind most of the time.  Keeping her paws on the ground takes real effort on my part, as opposed to most of the stuff I can’t be bothered to do.  She really is nuts but she didn’t put any of them in this bread for some reason……. even though the rest of her pantry seems to have made an appearance.

The Toadies had steel cut oats, quinoa, millet, buckwheat groats, poppy, flax sesame and hemp seeds.  The weight of the Toadies was 125 g.  But toasting them wasn’t enough for Lucy Poo.  The Toadies were then made into a porridge that was included on the first of 3 sets of stretch and folds with some pepitas and sunflower seeds – talk about seedy!

We added 250 g of water and brought the browned Toadies to a simmer for 5 minutes before turning off the heat covering them and letting them sit until cool.  The Adriatic and Mission figs were chopped into 3 pieces and incorporated during the 2nd set of stretch and folds.

It ended up a bit over proofed.

Half the flour was bread flour from the bins at Winco so I don’t know what miller could claim it.  The other 50% were home milled whole grains made up of: rye, spelt, red and white hard wheat, emmer, einkorn, barley, oat and buckwheat.  Half of the whole grains were also sprouted at home so 25% of the mix, ended up being sprouted grains.

The hard bits were sifted out from the sprouted and whole grains at a 24% extraction rate and used to build a 2 stage levain.  10 g of 25 week old NMNF rye starter and the bran was used for the first stage and a mix high extraction whole and sprouted flour used for the 2nd stage.  The levain was 100% hydration using 15% pre-fermented flour.

The levain was stirred after 4 hours and it doubled at the 10 hour mark - 2 hours after the 2nd feeding.  The levain was then retarded for 12 hours.  Once the levain came out of the fridge to warm up the next day we stirred it down before warm up.  We autolysed the dough flour and water for 1 hour with the salt sprinkled on top.  Hydration including the levain is 75% but does not include the porridge.  The levain rose 25% before it was stirred into the autolyse.

The first set of slap and folds was 30 slaps to get everything incorporated.  Then 2 more sets of 8 slaps each were done to help the gluten along before the 3 sets of 4 stretch and folds were done to get the Toady porridge and figs incorporated.  All the dough manipulations were done on 20 minute intervals.  We used to do many more slap and folds but have cut them way back since they just aren’t needed..... and I am nearly as lazy as Lucy.

We left the dough rest before doing the pre-shape and final shape into a squat oval and placing it into a rice floured basket.  The basket was bagged in a new trash can liner for a change and left on the counter for 40 minutes before retarding it for 18 hours.  Since it didn’t quite proof in the fridge, we let it warm up on the counter for 2 hours before preheating the oven to 500 F.  By that time it was a bit over proofed :-)

Once the oven was at temperature, we installed the Mega Steam and let the stones catch up to the oven temperature for an additional 15 minutes.  The dough was un-molded onto parchment on a peel, slashed twice and loaded on the bottom stone for 18 minutes of steam at 450 F.  Once the steam came out, the temperature was turned down to 425 F convection and the bread continued to bake until it hit 207 F in the center.

Here is the Mad Formulator doing what she does best!

t spread more than it sprang and bloomed but it did brown up boldly. The spreading had to be Lucy's fault with her porridge fetish.  Can’t wait to see what it looks like on the inside.  It sure smelled seedy and figgy as it baked.It didn't end up as open as we thought it would be but it is OK for a 50% whole grain bread with a ton of stuff in it.  The best part is th chewy bold crust and the seedy taste with a bit o sour coming through - delicious!  Had 4 slices of toast for breakfast this morning - no butter required and the sweet figs made jam unnecessary too.


15% pre fermented bran 2 stage levain

50% Bread Flour

25% Whole grain Flour

25% Sprouted flour

25% Toadies dry weight with 50% water for the porridge

10% each Pepitas and Sunflower Seeds

20% Figs

75% water including levain but not including Toady porridge

 Don't forget that salad



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