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Adding Gluten to 100% Gluten Free Flour? Magic or nonsense?

Tyler Dean's picture
Tyler Dean

Adding Gluten to 100% Gluten Free Flour? Magic or nonsense?

I've been wondering for the longest time what would become of a loaf that was made with gluten free flour, ENTIRELY, yet had added vital wheat gluten, and was yeasted, "kneaded" then allowed to rise. It's not for gluten free purposes obviously, but for experimental purposes and possibly health reasons. Say you used rice flour, or coconut, potato, cassava, hazelnut, corn, teff, etc. and gluten-ized it, yeasted it, rose it, baked it off... does anyone know what might be the end result here? I feel like doing this with multiple flours and maybe even things that aren't even flour...such as ground seeds or dehydrated veggies, chocolate and eggs with gluten and yeast... possibilities are endless? Would anybody be interested in these experiments if I shared them on these forums?
First post. Thank you all for reading and hello to The Fresh Loaf!

~Tyler Dean~

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clazar123

My first reaction was- "What's the point?" BUT we do have a number of posts from people that are low carb and seeking bread and VWG is low carb enough for them. Not a lot but a few. There is a forum here called "Baking for Special Needs" that would be the best place to post, I would think.

I always encourage people to bake bread in any form. We didn't always have wheat available and bread (in some form) has been made since fire was used as a tool.

As for what would happen if you add VWG to non-wheat flours-use the search box here. There are a number of interesting posts and you can get the general feel of people's reactions. Remember this is a BREAD forum and most bakers only define bread by wheat. My position is that all kinds of deliciousness can be baked using all kinds of ingredients and still be "bread".

http://www.thefreshloaf.com/node/52510/what-did-i-do-wrong

I did help the original poster troubleshoot and I actually baked these. They were surprisingly tasty!

Keep going and bake something delicious! I am always interested in how ingredients come together and behave. Your posts reach world-wide and everyone learns something. Don't forget pictures!

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pmccool

Try it and see.  The one suggestion I would offer is to avoid GF flour blends - most of those already include gums to provide structure.  You don't need those if you add gluten, so why pay for them?  Just use flours that interest you and include some VWG.  You'll be able to dial in how much VWG you need after a few bakes.  I suspect you will find that a combination of flours and starches is more to your liking than any single flour or starch; the only limitations to what you try are your imagination and your pocketbook.

Paul

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EricaO

I would be really interested in ypur findings. Due to IBS I need to follow a lof-fodmap diet but am really missing traditional (real) baking.

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clazar123

I believe you will find a treasure trove of information if you explore low carb baking. VWG is used often.

Actually, gluten free baking might also be a good place to start experimenting. Bear with me- I know you want to use gluten! BUT-GF baking can give you the recipes for using other flours. In GF baking gums (guar,xantham,psyllium and chia or flax) and protein (eggs,peanut flour,etc) are used for structure. Just eliminate the gums and start adding in vital wheat gluten for structure. The proteins also add flavor and moisture so make them a less major player in the recipe or eliminate for a leaner product.

The trick is to get a structure that isn't pure rubber. Remember that gluten-at a big concentration- makes seitan which is a nice chewy meat substitute. Not a great baked product texture! The ratio of VWG and starchy flour (rice,flour,etc) will be the key to getting a good texture. Start experimenting with small amounts that you weigh rather than volume measure. That way, it is easier to scale up to a full sized recipe. Also, become familiar with using baker's percentage. Just use the "search" box for that.

Have delicious fun!