The Fresh Loaf

A Community of Amateur Bakers and Artisan Bread Enthusiasts.

whats the difference between rye and white starter in a bread

mutantspace's picture
mutantspace

whats the difference between rye and white starter in a bread

just as a matter of interst im wondering what the taste difference would be in a white sourdough made with a levain:

60g white flour

20g rye starter

60g water

or a levain made with

 60g white flour

20g white flour starter

60g water

thanks

dabrownman's picture
dabrownman

white bread taste better in my book.  More complex and possibly a bit more sour.  I would make a 10% pre-fermented flour levain out of all rye with no white flour in the levain for an even better tasting bread.

mutantspace's picture
mutantspace

I must try it I have a rye starter in the fridge - its been keeping my white one company but has yet to be used even though I love whole grains in my bread...it has a lovely crab apple taste so I'll try it although I tend to use a 20% levain for my sourdough so I might do a 50/50 or do all rye in the levain having said that a 20% levain only works out at 14% rye flour in a 500g white bread.....

Mini Oven's picture
Mini Oven

but don't do it for pizza dough.  I did that yesterday and had strange reactions to the pizza.  I guess everyone was expecting a white white crust.  :(   You'd of thought the jungle would make 'em eat anything.  Nope Na Nada.

More for me.

mutantspace's picture
mutantspace

Thanks mini oven I'm going to use it next week - it really does taste good - I'm not sure if you know what crab apples are (it's what we call them in Ireland) but they're small bitter apples that have a beautiful rich perfume - rye starter is very similar :)

Mini Oven's picture
Mini Oven

and keep an eye on my own tree and a nice one in the next village back home.  I like to pickle them for Christmas trimmings.  

pmccool's picture
pmccool

Oh, Mini, my mom used to pickle crab apples but I haven't had any in decades.  That sweet and sour spicy apple-y goodness was a big hit at holiday dinners.  Memories...

Paul

mutantspace's picture
mutantspace

Oh now there's an idea never thought of pickling them what a great idea

mutantspace's picture
mutantspace

my dad has a tree in his garden...i now know what to do....but gooseberries are first up - their short season starts very shortly 

Mini Oven's picture
Mini Oven

Here is a pie with a cookie dough shell, a few red currents sprinkled on top for added colour.  The recipe is for a Swiss apple pie that has a sweet vanilla custard to drizzle over and into gaps of the partially baked berries.

Lazy Loafer's picture
Lazy Loafer

Recipe please! Drool, drool...

mutantspace's picture
mutantspace

Looks delicious musty try it after I've made the jam - gooseberry jam always brings me back to childhood and is often forgotten these days 

Mini Oven's picture
Mini Oven

http://www.thefreshloaf.com/comment/20397#comment-20397

can use just cream when the berries are sour.