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Using pH to guide bulk fermentation and final proof.

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Benito

Using pH to guide bulk fermentation and final proof.

There has been some interest in using pH to help guide fermentation of our dough.  Before purchasing a pH meter I used percent rise to guide fermentation and make decisions, however, there are times when it doesn’t seem to be very accurate.  If you’re interested in learning how to use an Aliquot jar then have a look at this post I made a while ago.  By posting this I am not claiming to be a master at using pH, I am simply sharing what I do now based on trial and error.  So this is just a guide that might help you get started using pH during your fermentation.  In the end you’ll also do some trial and error baking and figure out what works best for you too.

To start you’ll need a good pH meter, the one I have is the Hanna bread and dough pH meter.  It has an easy to clean tip designed to be used for dough and bread and is made of food safe plastics.  The same cannot necessarily be said for all pH meters.  

I don’t like to stab my dough with the probe tip of the pH meter, instead when the initial mixing is completed and I have done a letterfold I remove my aliquots of dough.  One for the aliquot jar to measure rise and the other for measuring pH.  So long as you keep these small jars of dough touching the main dough, they should keep a very similar temperature as the main dough and ferment at approximately the same rate.  In fact, once the main dough reaches the temperature of my proofing box, I separate the aliquot jars and leave them sitting in the proofing box out of contact with the main dough.

Each time I measure the pH, I just stab the dough in the pH aliquot jar and leave the main dough undisturbed.

Based on many bakes I have found the following works for me.  From the time when the dough is finished mixing and the aliquot of dough is in the jar for pH readings to the time I shape, I look for a full 1.0 drop in the pH.  It is very important that you measure the pH of the dough as soon as possible after mixing to get this first measurement.  Even though the dough doesn’t appear to rise for a few hours, once you start measuring the pH you’ll see that the pH starts to fall essentially immediately so get that first measurement in.  

So I shape with a delta of pH of 1.0.  I then look for a further change or delta of pH of 0.3, so a further drop of 0.3 of pH for the time of baking.  If your dough is particularly strong and mostly bread flour, then a delta of 0.4 might be fine in my experience.  But for my 100% whole grain breads I have found that going much beyond that final proofing delta of 0.3 leads to flat loaves that are over fermented.

Now, you may have noticed my use of stiff sweet levains to avoid sour bread.  Because the levain reduces the LAB population of the resulting dough, I have yet to determine what delta of pH to target to end bulk and to end final proof, so don’t ask me, I don’t know.  😂

It is helpful to keep fastidious notes as a baker, this is how we can figure out what works for us over time.  So keep good notes and you’ll soon figure out how pH can really help your baking.  I feel it certainly has helped mine.  Hopefully some of you might find this helpful or at least amusing. 

Benny

 

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GaryBishop's picture
GaryBishop

Thanks! Just what I was looking for. Now if my pH meter will get here I'll start having more fun. My kids ordered it over 2 weeks ago and Hanna says 2-3 more weeks before they get it. I'm guessing it is on a ship waiting in some port. Supply chain...

I have switched to yeasted doughs for the interim. The change in temperature has thrown what I thought I knew about my SD timing out the window. 

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Benito

Great glad you found it helpful Gary.  If I recall correctly mine took about six weeks to arrive I think.

Using pH is great when there is a change in season which does throw us bakers for a loop.  This is when we have to change things up to make things work.  I find doing overnight levains much more challenging this time of year when the overnight temperatures in my apartment warm up.  Last year I was leaving my levains on the floor in my bedroom which we keep the coolest in the apartment.  I reduced the inoculation and also stiffened the levain as well all to slow them down.  Now that I have discovered stiff sweet levains, I will also use them for some breads as well.

Benny

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Another Girl

Thank you for this sharing this methodology! Very timely in that I recently obtained a spear-tip pH meter; although a different brand, it was selected because it is suitable for use in doughs and baked breads. Your posting outlines a very sound process and I'll definitely start dabbling with it on my next bake. I'll take notes and report back when I have some data worth reporting. Thanks again!

–AG

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Benito

Glad you think it might be helpful to you AG.  I’ll be interested in hearing what works for you.  The more data we can compile as a group the more useful this can be for all of us.

Benny