OK so I finally gave in and gave up I am going to (actually I did don't tell my wife) order the KAF fresh starter. I have had so much bad luck with starters I want to just give in and try a pre-made starter. So my question is this any opinions? does anyone have it or did your current starter start with it. I just want to know what to expect when I get this little plastic container with my new friend in it. I hope it is worth it because my wife already says we have too much bread in our freezer. I have to tell her between my baking and the excellent artisian bakery we have in Pittsburgh http://www.mediterrabakehouse.com/index.shtml I just can't help myself.