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The Most Ignorant of All Questions: Cooling of Bread

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CountryBoy's picture
CountryBoy

The Most Ignorant of All Questions: Cooling of Bread

Ok, this is bed rock ignorant but here goes: artisan baking is all about the details and I have not figured out about the cooling part.

Peter Reinhart says he enjoys his bread warm but that his Parisian baker friend says the bread must cool 2-3 days for it to mature.  Others say that as well.  Who is right?

And when cooling is it necessary to cover it with cloth and if so why?

 

 

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Felila

We had a go-round on this a few months ago, when I asked the same question. 2-3 days seems extreme (unless it's what you need for extremely heavy artisan seeded breads, which are not what I bake). Howver,  leaving the bread to cool completely does often complete the cooking. If you cut into the bread before it's cool, it may still be just a tiny bit gummy inside. If you want tasty moist bread and your dough starts out soft and wet, this is likely.

But it's hard to wait! Many folks here admitted to sneaking a piece whenever they couldn't stand waiting any longer. 

Still, any cooling goes towards completing the cooking. Myself, I put my boules on rack, set the timer for 30 minutes, and distract myself. I don't put a cloth over the loaves. Why would I want the lovely crunchy crust to get soft?

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fancypantalons

Wow, just thirty minutes?  I let mine cool for at least 2 hours, or 45-60 minutes if I'm using a fan to accelerate the process.  Basically, I let it cool until there's very little residual heat in the loaf.

That said, I agree, the crust is just too delicious not to eat right away. :)

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Barkalounger

I have a rule that seems to work well.  I wait until no one is looking.

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Lizibear

This is my favorite comment. I admit, I too, am guilty of this! I smack everyone else's hands away and tell them to keep away from my beautiful boules, and once they have all evacuated the kitchen, I cut a tiny piece for myself. Lol.


You should, idealy wait until the bread is warm, not hot, before cutting a piece. If you are extremely patient you can wait until the bread is completely patient. However, I have a process that allows me to do both. Lately, I have been baking a smaller boule in addition to the bigger ones. The smaller one is what I let people snack on while they wait for the larger ones to cool. This way everyone is happy! You just have to remember to pull the smaller one out earlier than the rest!

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mrfrost

Similar philosophy and practice here. Although I don't bake many "artisan" type breads, I do bake all of my own breads; loaves and rolls. I usually bake loaves and rolls from the same batch of dough, and at the same time.


Of course the rolls bake quite a bit faster and cool faster too. Plus the temptation is usually not so powerful as the rolls cool, as the attention is still on the loaf that is still baking. By the time the loaf is cool, the rolls are safe to eat, inspect crumb, etc.

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kanin

Cooling matters more with rye breads. The moisture needs to redistribute inside the bread and it can take a while, at least 24 hours in some instances.

My personal rules of thumb:

  • Anything over 1.5 lbs gets the overnight treatment.
  • Small breads are best straight out the oven.
  • Anything with a considerabe amount of rye (25%)gets at least 24 hours.

 

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dmsnyder

I think the texture of most of my sourdough breads is best when they are completely cooled to room temperature (but not later!). So, I almost always wait to cut them. Cutting them while still hot yields a mushier texture and, sometimes, tearing.

Some breads just taste different when first cooled than they do the next day. Multi-grain breads, especially, benefit from time to meld flavors.

I happen to love fresh baked (but cooled) rye breads. The ones I usually make are very good for at least 5 days if kept in a bakery bag.

I haven't felt larger loaves need to be left for multiple days before cutting. They do take longer to cool, of course, but that's like 2 hours instead of 1 hour. Now, a lot of the larger loaves I make use high extraction flour, and those do taste better on the day after baking, most often.

Enriched breads, which I seldom make, are nice still a bit warm from the oven.

A slice of just cooled sourdough - wheat or rye - is a great bedtime snack. It ends the day on a positive note for me.

So, there are lots of variables, the most important of which is ... ta,ta ... personal preference.


David

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LindyD

I've been baking primarily sourdough breads and have found they just don't develop the optimum taste until they are completely cool - that means the next day for me, although I have (in a weak, starving, moment) cut into a loaf about four hours later. It was better the next day.

I don't cover my cooling loaves in the winter, but in the summer I will toss a lightweight cotton towel over them simply to keep off any bugs that might have snuck inside.

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HeathersMa

I agree that the flavor develops as the bread cools and finishes baking, but I have a hard time resisting the crunch of hot crust right out of the oven. In fact, yesterday, I baked a small, kind of side loaf, just so I could eat it hot out of the oven. As noted earlier, the cooling does seem to matter less with a small loaf, and the crust to interior ratio is slightly higher to the crust side. Wonderful with a little brie and and apple for lunch.

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Rosalie

When I visited France many years ago, I made sure to buy a fresh baguette every day.  I loved that bread, and never found any other bread in Europe that tasted as wonderful.  But I couldn't finish the whole baguette in one day (and my husband wasn't as excited about it as I was), and by the next day it was stale.  Letting that bread cool for 2-3 days would be counterproductive.

The breads I make myself these days last much longer.  I generally allow myself a taste of freshly baked bread as soon as it's cooled, a couple hours after it comes out of the oven.  But, invariably, it tastes better the next day.

I think the Parisian baker friend is being a bit anal giving a strict rule like that.  It is better a day or so later, but it is fine just an hour or two later.  I guess "fine" is not good enough for him.

Rosalie

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CountryBoy

It all sounds as if the answers are relative with no real need to cover the bread while cooling.  Thanks.

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verminiusrex

I cool the bread until I can bag it without condensation gathering on the inside of the plastic. 

 I cover it while it's cooling if I need to hide it from hungry family members while I'm busy in the kitchen.  

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Mini Oven

compared to smelling and listening to a freshly baked loaf popping and cracking as it cools...

Ahh the aroma...

Mini O

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CountryBoy

Hamelman in Bread on pg. 28 advises that bread with a high proportion of rye should cool 24-48 hours.

 

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dmsnyder

Far be it from me to argue with Mr. Hamelman.

The ryes I make don't qualify as having "a high proportion of rye," actually - less than 50%.


David

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Mini Oven

I've noticed time and time again that when rye flour is half or around 50%, strange things can happen.   It's better to go 60% or 40% and handle as a rye or a wheat accordingly.  50% is the grey zone when it comes to rye.  I think that's why the epoxy method was developed.

Mini O

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suave

With sourdoughs I try to leave them for 6-8 hours.  For yeast breads couple of hours is enough.

 Mike

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Wild-Yeast

I used to be guilty of breaking the 20 minute rule but then my skills improved to the point where it was nicer to look at a thing of beauty that also smelled and compelled the ultimate in temptation..., alas, I am cooling a sourdough loaf now on the counter without cover. It will go into a breadbox for an additional 6-8 hours before being placed in a plastic bag and then into the refrigerator. Key factors in this sequence are the sudden decrease in temperature after removing the loaf from the oven followed by a period in which the humidity is slowly adjusted to ambient (I think the old term for this was atemperate). I've found it important to reduce the amount of air circulating around the loaf which accounts for the breadbox rest. Sourdough bread has a definite advantage in its "keeping" quality - maintaining it's edibility for nearly a week under these conditions.


Another reason for not breaking fresh crust (at least for me) is that the novelty has warn off and my outlook has changed from one of performing novelty baking to one of providing a highly desirable bread as a part of our diet. I guess this is much like it was before the manufactured food revolution...,


Wild-Yeast


P.S. I think Barkalounger deserves an award for the best method!

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MmeZeeZee

That's my brain speaking to me.


I have a three-year-old and a hungry husband.  20 minutes?  Are you kidding?


This may be the answer to improving many a bread.  Thanks.

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EricaVee

...but perhaps it's because I always use some whole wheat flour? So far I've been disappointed with the first pieces I eat when it's been cooled, but the next day it tastes much better.

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eatbread

i wait until it's barely warm, then split a most enjoyable crusty nub with my boyfriend.