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Sourdough Yeast

old baker's picture
old baker

Sourdough Yeast

Is there a dry yeast like Red Star that will produce sourdough bread?  I realize there are many different types of SD microbes, based on locale.  But in brewing beer at home there are hundreds of different types yeasts available, each imparting a different flavor.  If this is possible, why hasn't some company developed different types of bread yeasts?

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Benito

Not sure if this is what you're looking for but I saw this on the Internet.

https://redstaryeast.com/red-star-platinum-instant-sourdough-yeast/

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old baker

Benito, that's pretty much what I was looking for.  But I'm confused about what the web site says:

"Platinum® Instant Sourdough is not meant to be used in place of a sourdough starter.

Simply substitute one packet of Platinum® Instant Sourdough for one 1/4 oz. packet of any dry yeast in any recipe. Use in any of your favorite yeast recipes to Sourdough It Up!"

First sentence says it's not meant to be used in place of a sourdough starter.  Second sentence says substitute 1/4 pack of dry yeast with one pack of Platinum instant sourdough.

So, do I use Platinum as a substitute or do I still need some type of starter?  Confusing.

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Benito

Sorry I've never used this product but it was what I remember reading about sometime in the past so thought I'd bring it to your attention.

Benny

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old baker

Anyone know how to use this product?

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Debra Wink

Maybe what they're getting at is that it's not a one-to-one replacement, because it doesn't provide the water and flour that comes along with a sourdough starter. Only the leavening and flavoring agents. And so it can be used in straight dough formulas in the same manner as commercial yeast, to give you a sourdough effect. If all the yeast and bacteria are live, then it could probably be used for a preferment as well.

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old baker

The recipe for baguettes is given by Red Star as:

https://redstaryeast.com/recipes/platinum-instant-sourdough-baguettes/

The yeast is not available yet in my locale and the free sample offer is temporarily not available.  I guess I'll have to wait a while for it.

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DanAyo

I read up on that product recently. I read that some people tried to make SD starter with the yeast package. The reply was that is not the purpose of the product.

It is to be used exactly as you would commercial yeast, but the bread would have a Sd flavor. I didn’t investigate further because the reviews indicated that the sour was not strong, but was noticeable. 

old baker's picture
old baker

With all the talk here about sourdough breads and starters, I'm curious about baking some SD bread.  But so many folks seem to have all kinds of problems with their starter (including me one time) that I gave up on the idea.  But if there's an instant fix, I'll try it.  Lazy me.  And now I find it's not yet available.  Bummer.

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DanAyo

https://www.amazon.com/Platinum-Instant-Sourdough-Yeast-packet/dp/B07MXMTX53/ref=sr_1_3?crid=2859ERYQNTD2T&keywords=red+star+platinum+yeast&qid=1565709460&s=gateway&sprefix=Red+star+%2Caps%2C176&sr=8-3

OldBaker, if you want to try SD starters again, I am happy to send some of mine in dehydrated form. Send me a PM with your mailing address if you want some.

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old baker

PM sent.  And your link opens up some other possibilities.

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chefcdp

The French yeast company, Lesaffre, makes a sourdough yeast that is not intended to create an ongoing culture.  It is for one time use to create a levain that is used to make a bread dough.  King Arthur used to sell three different varieties of the yeast.  However now they just list one.  it is quite pricey, but could be worth it for the convenience

Charles.

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old baker

The only SD yeast I see on the KA site is a starter kit.  Probably $2 for the yeast and $30 for the crock.  No thanks.

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bonnibakes

at $9.95 for the package of sourdough yeast starter. Here's the link:

https://shop.kingarthurflour.com/items/french-style-sourdough-starter-5g

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BobbyFourFingers

I’ve used this product to build an overnight levain. One package is good enough for 4-5 300g levain builds.

The flavor is mildly sour and quite nice. I am as happy with the results from Florapan LA4 as I am from my rye starter, though maybe I would give my starter a nudge for some subtle complexity.

Regardless, it’s a good product. Remember to refrigerate it even when unopened.

https://www.modernistpantry.com/florapan-starter-culture.html

old baker's picture
old baker

No way.  I'll do without, thanks.

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BobbyFourFingers

For clarity, it works out to about $2 per levain build. I imagine it is great for people who need consistency/predictability or infrequent bakers who typically don't want the bother of maintaining a pet, even in the refrigerator. Also, it does have a good flavor.

Nevertheless, I enjoy the idiosyncrasies of my homegrown pets.

 

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old baker

But that's over $900/lb.  That's excessive IMO.

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BobbyFourFingers

It’s a good thing we’re not into high-end incense. This piece of fragrant wood costs over $600,000/lb. 

https://www.japanincense.com/sh0213.html

1 gram, $1600, is enough for 2 Japanese incense sessions:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kōdō

Someone has the money for these things!