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Is my bread underproved?

albacore's picture
albacore

Is my bread underproved?

This loaf was overnight retarded in the fridge - so it was difficult to be sure if proof level was correct. I didn't quite get the loft I hoped for - and the loaf had poor/no ears.

Looking closely there seems to be a small compacted layer just above the base, so just wondering if this is considered to be underproved?

Lance

 

aroma's picture
aroma

...a degree of compression on the base as the gases are unable to expand downwards.  I think that's a lovely loaf.

albacore's picture
albacore

I guess I have a tendency to focus on the "improvement points" rather than the fact that actually it's a rather nice loaf!

Lance

Mini Oven's picture
Mini Oven

Especially in the left lower shoulder (?) where the shape curves up.  And have to say I don't know.  I would be speculating but first guess is that the dough might have dried out there a bit too much during the retard. Moisture could have been removed by a banneton unevenly, perhaps a wet banneton with dryer sides than bottom. Drying them upside down on a rack between bakes might help if that's the cause.  Perhaps less time in the banneton.

Perhaps the dough went too early into the shaping.  Retarding usually gives me lots of tiny bubbles everywhere in the dough so I'm surprised to see it.  I'm thinking along the lines that yeast gas bubbles weren't allowed to form or expand in that area of the dough and what could be causing it.  

How was the banneton placed in the fridge?  Could condense water be dripping onto the dough?

albacore's picture
albacore

Plastic banneton with cotton liner and shower cap, so I don't see any issues there.

Next time I might try 30 mins room temp proof before retarding.

In your bulk, what sort of percent volume increase do you look for?

Lance

kendalm's picture
kendalm

I tend to think it's proofed really nicely. Maybe the bottom is denser thanks to a large cold loaf hitting your stone (or Dutch oven etc) hard to say really but otherwise, great loaf !

DanAyo's picture
DanAyo

I also thought it was well proofed, but couldn’t come up with an explanation for the dense bottom. Your idea gets my vote...

Dan

kendalm's picture
kendalm

ha ha ! Tks Dan - as you know that's my thang init. I always envision the heat flow - ie bubbly at the top equals hotter at the top etc etc ...

albacore's picture
albacore

Thanks Geremy, it's my new "5 Sevens" (TM );) formulation: 7% each MM wheat, rye, spelt + 7% Sem Rim + 7% toasted chia & amaranth seeds, 50/50 mixed.

Lance

kendalm's picture
kendalm

good on you Lance, I'm too shy to try these really advances blends - maybe soon tho (at which point may have to hit you up for some pointers)