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Submitted by JMonkey on October 12, 2007 - 9:09pm Kenneth's Poilane-style MicheThis is a recipe that Kenneth, a long-time poster to rec.food.sourdough, has posted a few times in response to requests. I made it this weekend and can safely say it's delicious. Tangy, but not overpoweringly so, with a smooth crumb that, though not full of big holes, is nevertheless a moderately light bread. It sprung well in the oven. In fact, it reminded me of some of the better Desem breads I've made. The hydration of this loaf is 68%, so one could go higher, I'm sure, and the salt is higher than usual at 2.5%, but the bread did not taste overly salty. Day 1, 9:30pm 474g Water + 120g starter + 236g coarse whole wheat, ferment at 69F. Of course, I fiddled with the recipe. First, I didn't knead on Day 2. Instead, I mixed it up and then let it ferment for 2.5 hours. I gave it a fold at 1 hour, 45 minutes and then another 45 minutes. Then, I popped it in the fridge. When I baked it, I did use a preheated oven, stone and steam, but I feel certain that a cold start would do fine as well. I baked at 460.
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interesting recipe...
Hi JMonkey,
Thanks for posting this recipe. It's interesting to me because it's so far from what I normally do. The very wet, very ripe levain followed by a firm very long cold fermentation, then a long final proof is far from anything I've tried. The benefit of a soaker seems to happen during the refrigeration period, but maybe there is something going on with cold fermentation temperatures for a little while, too.
The other thing I notice is that this approach has a very high fermented flour ratio. I've always had trouble with high inoculations in medium or soft dough, but this is a very low hydration dough, given it has whole wheat, whole rye, and whole spelt in it. Maybe the high inoculation levels that would normally result in fairly rapid overproofing are offset by the very firm consistency and colder temperatures, so you end up with the right overall consistency in the end. I'm still a little surprised this recipe doesn't result in a very dense bread.
I guess it's yet another thing on the list to try. The list seems to grows bigger by the day, and I only knock things off the list a few times a month.
By the way, I agree that really wet dough may be too much trouble for little flavor gain. However, a long soak, hydration for a medium soft dough, and medium to small inoculations combined with enough kneading and some folding has resulted in a reasonably light , soft, moist texture and good flavor with whole wheat flours in my experience so far. The sourdough sandwich bread recipe I blogged a while ago is so far my favorite whole grain sourdough bread.
Bill
A bit more on Kenneth's recipe
I forgot to mention that my house is pretty cold these days. Usually about 62 in the morning and no more than 64 or 66 during the day. So I did extend the final fermentation to about 7 hours, instead of 5 hours, because the dough still felt too springy to my touch.
On another note, I'd totally missed your sandwich bread post. Very cool! That was during the period when I was almost entirely absent, trying to get ready for the big move. I LOVE how you describe incorporating the firm starter into the soaker. I'll definitely have to try that.
re: Kenneth's recipe
It's still warm in most of the house, but I noticed a bit of a chill and 69F in one end of the house today. It's been cool outside the last couple of days. So, I guess winter temperatures and different winter strategies for fermentation are around the corner finally. I've been wondering when it might finally start acting like fall around here.
Glad you liked the Sourdough Sandwich WW bread. The pizza technique for bringing together the epoxy dough does take some of the work out of it. I've now combined that approach with the Glezer "squeezing and extruding" hand kneading technique and find it works very well to both mix and knead the epoxy dough by hand. I alternate the "squeezing and extruding up and down the dough" with some french folds, and then let rest for a minute while I wash off any developing stickiness, rewet, and rest my hands, followed by another bout and just keep that going for 20-30 minutes. It is a relaxing way to knead without working up much of a sweat, if you want to knead a larger dough by hand. The squeezing and extruding not only develops the gluten quickly, but also forces the ingredients to integrate rapidly. Then the french fold quickly smooths out and stretches the gluten. The one minute rest lets both the gluten relax and your fingers to rest and recover, as well as wash and rewet.
Bill