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Hocus Pocus from Saveur

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Hocus Pocus from Saveur

http://www.saveur.com/article/Kitchen/Bread-Accurate-Cups-Weight

Me thinks a sample of n=20 would prove this method completely (as the Car Talk guys say) booo-oooo-ooooo-oooo-gus.

(At least they mention using a scale. That's a plus, I guess!)

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dabrownman

took me to Saveur's OOPPSS! page

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Sorry. Is fixed now.

Thanks, Doc, for fixing in my absence.

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My contribution to the N=20 data below - so I do not know how to get 4.5 oz in a cup that way.

Flour #1 and #3 are different bread flours; #2 is high gluten, #4 is AP (all white)

Weight in ounces of one cup of flour of various types, stirred and then spooned into two different 1-cup measures and the top struck with a small steel spatula (with the flat of the blade in the plane of the top of the cup):

 

Flour #1

Flour #2

Flour #3

Flour #4

Cup #1

4.1

4.2

4.2

3.9

Cup #2

4.3

4.3

 

 

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Thanks for n=6.

I guess I'm not surprised.

Maybe I should have pinged her for the flour type / brand before? Oh well. Interesting nonetheless.

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dabrownman

4.163 oz or 118 gms when I stir spoon in and scrape off with a metal rule.  4.5 oz is not possible with my AP flour.

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Danke, dabrownman.

I'll drink a tequila in your honor.

Bah! Confound it! All I have is Cuervo, which I use as weed killer for the gigantic dandelions. In Colorado, dandelions are the size of bowling balls. This is a 'small' one:

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dabrownman

my own heart.  It's only 100F today, after 90 F the last 2 days, so I'm drinking a margarita with home made arancello in honor of your new and completely unique  shape!  A shooter for the first one who makes one !

I'll weight up my other flours after dinner we remember , maybe even grind some for a whole grain Chacon.

My idiot spell checker says to replace your name with Chicano.  Chicano sounds like a better name for a Brownman shape to me but Chacon it is.......  Sounds so very French, ancient and decadent.  Now I have to look up what Chacon means in French.  If it means Chicano, I'm drinking the shooter myself :-)

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Je ne suis pas français.

The French version uses a soft ç.

Mine uses a hard c.

No idea if they're related, but give my Mom enough time and enough genealogy books and I'm sure she'll find a connection.

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dabrownman

find any French word chacon that has a meaning other than chacon.  The French dictionary said it was prpbably Spanish, which got my hopes up, but alas, no word for it in Spanish either.  Maybe the French or Spanish TFL'ers can shed some light on your last name?

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Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

Or a pseudonym.

(I am, sadly, not a brownman. In fact, after 1000 miles on the bike, I look not unlike a boiled lobster).

-

And we have gone off-topic on topics that are off-topic, so I say no more.

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Mini Oven

when a name has no definition, it is a pure and very old name.  A name only reserved for a traditional family name.  I hope that helps you feel better.    :)

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thomaschacon (not verified)

Brownman was making me cry.

Mom's traced it back to the 1540s (probably 1230s by now, knowing her diligence).

France --> Scotland --> Nova Scotia --> Then hitched a ride with the Acadians during the Grand Derangement to present-day Louisiana.

One of my impish ancestors probably put a piece of charcoal in Cardinal Richileu's brioche and he chased us out.

(Can't tell you how many times I've gotten, "That's naught a Scooootish name, is it?!")

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4.21 oz AP

(4.11 oz AP, second try).

4.40 oz Hi-gluten

4.02 oz White Whole Wheat

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dabrownman

KA WWW - 122 g

Red Mill Dark Rye - 132 g

Arrowhead Mills Rye - 124

Kroger WW - 139 g