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flournwater

Flavor Question

A bread making novice, I've recently been experimenting with Ciabatta bread.  Here's my most recent result.



I have found that I prefer working from a 50% hydration biga foundation and the results have been satisfying  -  except for the flavor.  The bread flavor is OK but not quite what I had hoped for.  Is it because Ciabatta is somehow less flavorful than other breads?  Is it the milk to water ratio in the recipe?  I'm curious to learn what element(s) in the Ciabatta bread preparation might be the greatest contributors (or detractors) from the best possible flavor.


Along with the common ingredients (i.e. water, flour, etc.) I use active dry yeast, whole milk, table salt, no oil.

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xaipete

I don't use milk in my ciabatta, but its hydration level is 80%. The ingredients I use for different types of French bread, ciabatta, focaccia, etc., are all the same (water, flour, yeast, salt), however, they do differ with respect to hydration level.


It is amazing to me that all these different breads have different tastes. I have pondered why and assume it must have something to do with the amount of water aside from the obvious different handling methods.


Your ciabatta looks very nice--great structure, holes, etc. Great picture too.


--Pamela

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Janknitz

I made an "accidental ciabatta" this weekend. 


I intended to make a boule from my ABin5 dough, but I forgot to turn the oven on at the proper time for preheating.  So my poor boule over-proofed.  It flattened out somewhat and had huge air bubbles.  It still had good spring in the oven, but came out looking more like a ciabatta than a boule.  It had great flavor  and huge, lovely holes. 


This ABin5 dough was about 3 days old at that point.  I know traditional bread makers disparage ABin5 methods, but it is a highly hydrated dough with a very long retard, and I think the flavor develops very nicely.


So my suggestion for flavor development might be to retard the dough in the fridge for a period of time (10 to 12 hours?) and see if that brings you the flavor you are looking for.  I always proof at least once in the fridge for even my traditional doughs and I think it really enhances flavors.   

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executor

I've found that some Chapatta breads has more flavor than others due to the addition of flavoured oils. In my bakery I used a mixture of plain oliva oil and corn oil, but you can also use palta (avocado) oil. Just substitute some of the water (I use a 20%) in your recipe for some oil and that's it. The adittion of water never affects final flavor, only texture, and I never never use milk for a Ciabatta.


=)

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OHMYGOSH50

I HAVE BEEN MAKING CHALLAH FOR SOMETIME NOW BUT SINCE I HAVE DOUBLED THE RECIPE IT HASNT BEEN GOOD ..ARE THERE ANY BAKERY OWNERS THAT WOULD BE WILLING TO HELP  AND ALSO SHOW ME HOW TO BRAID A SIX BRAIDED CHALLAH......THANKS ..SHABBAT SHALOM ALL


 

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Oldcampcook

If you will Google "six braided challah', you will find at least two youtube videos.  I can't give you the direct link as the filter here at work will not allow us to view youtube.


Bob

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executor

Here we have this video available, it's about braiding 6 strand bread and it is very easy to follow:


http://www.thefreshloaf.com/node/10424/six-strand-braiding-video


And, in relation to your recipe, can you post the final recipe you made? So we can tell you if there is any mistake or something.  Also tell us what was the problem with your bread, maybe we can give you some advice.