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Failure? Well, it LOOKS like it...

IceDemeter's picture
IceDemeter

Failure? Well, it LOOKS like it...

Well, all of you evil influences managed to tempt me off of my planned path of simple formulas (with some experiments of percentages and timing just to figure out what works best here), and off in to the crazy territory of the more complex recipes...

I can't say that I am really ready for it, but - well, that's part of the fun! 

For my "base" bread for the week, I stuck with the 50% whole grain that I enjoyed from last week, but scaled down and with a different preferment percentage and timing.  I haven't quite developed the feel for fermenting / proofing yet, so it was slightly under-proofed, and I didn't get as much caramelizing as I would have liked, but it's still just fine for our "base":

No crumb shot yet, but I'm sure it'll be just a bit more dense than last time.  I've learned that I need to either keep the percentage of levain higher (pre-fermented flour was just 10% of total flour weight), proof at a higher temperature, or allow for more time in my schedule for this to bulk ferment.  No worries, and not a "failure" - just not quite as much oven-spring as I would have liked.

Edit to add crumb shot:

As for the other experiment, well, it sure LOOKS like a failure!  No oven spring, the scoring basically disappeared, and it looks like an oversized pancake:

As I stood there today, explaining to my husband what a total failure this was (completely under-fermented, under-proofed) and how I had royally messed it up (trying to go by the clock and not the dough - and being far too concerned about the prospect of OVER proofing), he raised an eyebrow and inquired whether I realized that I had basically inhaled 3 pieces of the "failure" while we were talking...  It may LOOK bad, but folks - this thing is freakin' CANDY!

Yeah - so I went with a toasted barley porridge, soaked chopped figs, toasted almonds and wheat germ, 5g each of white and red rye malt, and --- yeah.  It's candy.  It actually might be a GOOD thing that I messed up the texture, since I imagine that if it had turned out as a SUCCESS then I'd have inhaled the whole thing by now!

In my opinion, one of the great things about experimenting with bread is that there really aren't any "failures" - even the worst results can be used as bread crumbs or added to a bread pudding or used as altus in a future bake.  Gotta have fun with it!

 SUMMARY  
  WEIGHT (G)BAKER %  
      
 TOTAL MILLED FLOUR795100.00  
 Flour in Levain (whole grain rye)759.43  
 Flour in Autolyse72090.57  
   (340g hard red wheat, 280g all purpose, 100g whole spelt)    
 Added Flour in Final Mix00.00  
      
 TOTAL HYDRATION70588.68  
 Water in Levain759.43  
 Water in Porridge / Soaker11013.84  
 Water in Autolyse52065.41  
 Added Water in Final Mix00.00  
 Other liquids00.00  
      
      
 TOTAL DRY ADDERS27334.34  
 Toasted Additions (60g almonds 30g wheat germ)9011.32  
 Soaker Additions (60g barley, 3g salt, 120g soaked figs)18323.02  
 Autolyse Additions00.00  
      
      
 Final Mix Additions00.00  
      
 SALT151.88  
      
 FINAL DOUGH1788224.90  
      
 FINAL FLOUR795100.00  
 FINAL HYDRATION 59574.84  
  (NOT including water absorbed by grains / fruit in porridge / soaker)  
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
 METHOD
      
 DAY 1:    
      
1Build Levain with a 3 stage build:Stage 1Stage 2Stage 3 
 Starter 6   
 Flour112244 
 Water112244 
 Plan for final dough mix 12-16 hours after stage 3 feed if leaving at room temperature, or after
 doubling at room temp then refrigerating   
      
2Toast almonds and wheat germ then crush almonds.  Cook barley in 180g boiling water for 35 min
 giving 120g cooked total (60g water).  Soak chopped figs in 120g water (use this water in autolyse)
      
 DAY 2:    
      
1Combine any prepared toasted additions, soakers/scalds/porridges, and  
 all flours with water in a rough mix.  Cover and allow to sit at room temperature  
 for 1 to 2 hours.  Sprinkle salt on top so don't forget it.   
      
2Spread levain over top of autolyse and thoroughly mix in.  Add up to 25g more water if needed.
 Allow to rest, covered, for 10-20 minutes.   
      
3Thoroughly knead dough in bowl for 10-15 minutes, then allow to rest, covered, for another
 15 minutes.  Knead again until dough is smooth and forms cohesive ball (about 5-10 minutes).
 Place in to clean fermenting container and cover for bulk fermentation.  
      
4Do stretch-and-fold on dough every 30 minutes for first 2 hours (30/60/90/120) minutes, as
 needed.  Add in another couple of sets at 150/180 minutes if necessary.  After that, allow 
 overnight in the fridge (look for 30-50% volume increase).  
  SF@ 2:15, 2:45, 3:15, 3:45, in to fridge at 4:00 
 DAY 3:    
      
1Remove proofing bin from fridge and allow to come to room temperature and finish proofing.
      
2Release dough from fermenting container on to clean work surface.  Use damp hands and 
 damp bench knife to pre-shape.  Cover and allow to bench rest for 30 - 60 minutes. 
      
3Very lightly flour hands, work surface, and surface of dough.  Flip over, degas, and do final
 shaping.  Place seam down in parchment lined banneton, cover with plastic, and 
 allow to proof at room temperature (watch for level - might be up to 3 or 4 hours) 
 Bake when finger poke returns veeeery slowly.   
      
4Preheat oven to 475 degrees with roasting pan placed on cookie sheet inside.  Wait at least
 20 minutes after oven chimes that pre-heat is finished.   
      
5Score top of dough, take lid off roaster, and quickly place dough in to roaster with the 
 parchment paper.  Spritz inside roaster with water, replace cover, and drop temp to 450 degrees.
 Bake covered for 20-25 minutes, then drop temp to 425 degrees and bake uncovered for  
 35 to 45 minutes (until internal temp is 208-210 F).  Allow to cool for 24 hours before slicing.
 Suggest: allow to cool for 10 min in oven with temp off and door opened before removing

 

Comments

Danni3ll3's picture
Danni3ll3

Those loaves look great and good for you for jumping in with both feet! I really like the combo of ingredients that you put into your loaves! I have yet to try figs in my bread. 

IceDemeter's picture
IceDemeter

the jumping in with both feet is waayy more fun than following a deliberate, staged plan!  Honestly, I get just as much of a kick out of learning from my delicious "failures" as I do out of the more obvious successes.  My biggest issue is that you and the others keep coming up with more and more that are on my "oooh - gotta try THAT one" list, and my waistline is telling me that I really need to slow it down...

As for figs - seriously, they are one of my all-time favourites.  I have used them as the main (often only) sweetener in quick breads and trail-food "cookies" for years, and always have a few bags of them in the freezer.  I find that they aren't as strong in flavour as dried apricots or prunes, so seem to complement other flavours instead of competing with them.  I bet you'd really enjoy them in one of your wonderful creations!

Thanks for your kind words, and happy baking!

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dabrownman

than we need to be.  These look perfectly fine to me and if they taste good then it is a complete success.  You are right less levain means more time and more time means more flavor.  Just think how great this bread would be if it fermented and proofed properly  It would be killer.  Look like you are ion track to be one fine bread baker if you ask me.  Well done and 

Happy baking IceDemeter now you have been outed ;-0

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0032063305002072

IceDemeter's picture
IceDemeter

Google Fu... and have been exposed as an experimental data generator...

Hmmm - maybe not too far off the truth for most of us, eh?  Mind  you, I'm fairly sure that I've received a whole lot less government funding over the years than the DEMETER project did.

I don't know if I'll ever turn in to a "fine" bread baker, but I'll be more than content to continue as a happy little "peasant" bread baking apprentice who manages healthy, hearty, and flavourful even if not very pretty!  All of my "failures" to date have tasted good, have taught me something, and have been either eaten up or are in the freezer to be used in future bakes, turkey stuffing, or bread pudding...  I guess that is pretty darned successful, isn't it?!

Thanks for your kind words, and for the heads-up that I need to be better at covering my electronic tracks...;)

Isand66's picture
Isand66

Taste overrules looks every time!  Your crumb looks excellent on your bake.  Just keep at it and it will get easier as you go.  I still have some duds every once in a while too no matter how long you've been doing this.

Regards,
Ian

IceDemeter's picture
IceDemeter

flavour mix and the porridge really got the cravings going!  I'll definitely be keeping up with new attempts, and learning from each experiment.

The flavour profile really is outstanding, and there seems to be no end to the combinations that can be tried.

Thanks for your kind words, and encouragement!

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alfanso

if we are lucky and attentive.  I was a programmer and I found that my best remembered lessons were from mistakes that I made.  Over a career I made plenty of them too!

" one of the great things about experimenting with bread is that there really aren't any "failures" - even the worst results can be used...".  Yes indeed.

Well, at least one loaf came out looking lovely.

alan

IceDemeter's picture
IceDemeter

while enjoying the process is what makes for the least stress and the most happiness!

I can't remember who was credited for the original message, but "the only person not making mistakes is the person not doing anything" has always resonated with me.

Thanks for the encouragement and kind words --- as well as the inspiration (that scoring - honestly...) and the joy so evident in your bakes and posts.

Best,

Laurie