Hoping maybe @Breadzik can assist with this one - or anyone else with the knowledge!
My local Polish shop has a decent range of Polish wheat flours from Lubella and Basia. They seem to be of good quality and I buy them quite often, especially the T550, to use as bread flour in German recipes.
But there's also T500, T450 and T405. I know the number relates to ash content, but there is also flour strength to consider. Eg, consider Italian 00 flour - it can have a W index from 180 - 400 and still be 00. The Basia T405 seems very soft and good for cakes, but not fully sure about the rest.
And then there are designations of Tortowa Extra, Tortowa Orkiszowa, Extra Wpiek Drozdzowe, Extra Wpiek Biszkopty and Krupczatka - what do these all mean?
And lastly, is there a Polish equivalent of T997 - light (not white) rye flour?
Lance
Lance
Maybe @Breadzik can confirm the accuracy of this ...
Tony
According to ChatGPT:
These are Polish names for different types of wheat flours used in baking. Here's a quick breakdown:
Summary:
In Poland, the equivalent of T997 light rye flour (common in some countries' flour classification systems) is usually:
Here’s how it matches:
Here’s a quick table of Polish rye flour types (mąka żytnia) for you:
Notes:
Visual tip:
The ChatGPT translation is pretty accurate. One thing I noticed on the Basia flour web page is that many of the flours don't indicate the type but rather recommended use. The flour types used to be more strictly regulated and were the only ones generally available. Nowadays there seems to be more flexibility in that regard but I think if a flour specifies a type it has to adhere to regulations for that type. Otherwise I'd assume the name would indicate recommended uses but it could also be something of a marketing spiel as it shouldn't preclude the flour from being used in something else.
Just wanted to add the names of the polish rye flours as I know them:
The most interesting one to me is typ 1850 which apparently is rye equivalent of Graham flour and is used in just one standard recipe but it was deemed important enough to have its own category, even if it was not universally known in Poland. I never came across it but would love to try. It looks like there is also typ 1150 but I haven't seen it mentioned it in the books that I have.
Basia sells flour nowadays? Man, that's tough
(lol jk, Lance)
Jay
Now, specifically about your rye flour question, as rye is my favorite. "Mąka żytnia typ 720" (T720) or "mąka żytnia chlebowa" is the most often used rye flour. It would be closest to the German Roggenmehl Type 997 but maybe a little bit lighter. Maybe you could add a little medium rye if you'd like. I often mix the T720 with medium rye flour 50/50 with good results. American white rye flour would be closer to T580 which is rarely found or used in Poland. What is more popular is "mąka żytnia typ 2000" or "mąka żytnia razowa" or just "mąka razowa" which is whole grain rye flour or sometimes closer to a fine rye meal depending on the mill.
Also, the Polish Wikipedia has a pretty good article about Polish flours and the Firefox translation of it is OK.
As for "krupczatka", even though it's meant for shortcrust pastries and such that didn't stop some madlads from using it in breads. I guess some people just like living on the edge. Same goes for the other flour types: the categories are not strict, just recommended uses. Typ 500 can make pretty good bread, too. It's all in the hands of the baker.
Although "krupczatka" shares the type number with other flours, it is its own category. Here's my version of this table from Wikipedia:
Typ 405 would be a lighter version of typ 450. These categories, as most of others in Europe, are defined by the ash content. In this case, let's say typ 550 would be about 0.55% ash. They were developed to work with the locally available grain and will work for their intended purposes. Even though the protein content is not usually stated I'm sure it's available somewhere if one were to dig deep enough in the standards regulating these flour types but generally the higher the ash content, the higher the protein content as well.
This has given me some useful info and the table is very helpful. I haven't come across T650 or T750 in the UK, but T550 works well enough as a moderate strength bread flour (12% protein/European measurement).
Lance