September 3, 2023 - 8:12am
Question about sourcing rye flour on line. (Best value)
Additionally, Labor day weekend smoked brisket, & bake.
Hello, my friends.
Sourcing rye flour here in Az. Has proved to be difficult. To the point I have yet to find retail size bags. Any tips? I am hankering for a NY deli rye. To accompany, my smoked pastrami.
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Will,
What I've been using for several years since Hodgson's rye offerings went belly-up.
https://www.amazon.com/stores/page/9E1D512D-FFB4-4A0C-93FD-2E78C76EEE2F/search?ingress=2&visitId=a9b3f54b-77e7-478e-9fea-a58d6ed31c4e&ref_=ast_bln&terms=rye
Alan
And while you're at it, cut me a few slices of that pastrami, if you don't mind...
I had the one sandwich. I gave the remainder to my son with a fresh I talian bread for his lunch last week
I'll make you a deal. Come visit me, I'll have a whole brined brisket (corned beef) ready for the smoker. Then we can spend a long day baking rye bread while the pastrami slow cooks.
Thanks for the 411!
I am a huge fan of www.bartonspringsmill.com
I mill my own but I’m sure the already milled versions are just as good.
I've purchased whole rye from Breadtopia. Their shipping charge was low a couple of years ago because they used a regional shipper and I was in the region. Now, it seems that they are using normal shipping channels with higher rates. I've thought about ordering from Barton Springs Mill in TX because they have flat rate shipping. Central Milling in UT might have good shipping rates to AZ.
But in the meantime, I found imported(!) whole rye at a local Serbian market for $1.50/lb. That really can't be beat.
I buy King Arthur medium rye at a local mega grocer (not Walmart) for less than the KA list, but it's still ≈$3.00/lb.
if you have one. Ours sells bulk organic rye berries for $4.99/lb. but sells organic whole grain (i.e. dark) rye flour for $1.29 ! I asked them why the big difference, they said volume and economics - they sell a LOT more of the flour than the berries.
Thank you my friends, for taking time to reply. I took the baguette kings suggestion. Because Amazon makes shopping so easy. Plus there is the "free shipping". While I had the four pack of dark rye in my cart I took the opportunity to replenish my stock of diastatic malt powder. Along with Anthony's that I souced last time was an offering from Red Star. I have until now never seen the Linnter value listed on the malt packaging. It was 60 linnter. I opted for the Red Star even tho it was the most expensive. Is the 60 linner the best/commonly found value? What brand are you community members using? Thanks again. Deli Rye is awaiting delivery! Photo is strictly for attention.
I use the KAF version. No mention of Linnter value. Curios what that is exactly.
Degrees Lintner (°L) is a measure of the ability of the malt to convert starch into sugar. From Wikipedia:
JECFA, the Joint FAO/WHO Expert Committee on Food Additives, defines the degree Lintner as follows:
The °L value of the Red Star malt is lower than a typical brewing malt:
To add some confusion, the color of brewing malt is graded (in the US) by the degree Lovibond scale, often abbreviated °L. However, the °L unit should be reserved for degree Lintner. Europe malt may use Windisch–Kolbach units (°WK) instead of °L.
Thanks for the info….way too much info for my cobwebbed head. I only use this stuff in my pretzels but I may give it a try with my next SD bake.
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Breadtopia. I have ordered whole grain rye flour from them for years and it is high quality and reasonably priced imo. I started buying 3lb bags, now I buy 10lb bags for my usual breakfast breads which is a 60% whole rye formula.
I don't know which type of rye flour is used in "NY rye" so you will have to be the judge of that after reviewing their products.
15% off which effectively gives free shipping. Their flat rate is $10 on 25# or less which ends up being 4/5#bags due to packaging increasing the final shipping weight. This avg out to $69.50 for 20# of flour at the sale rate . Breadtopia is currently at exactly $3 a pound with shipping to my area in VA. I love Barton Springs and thank Ian for “ discovering “ them every time I mill their grains.
I would never give Amazon a dime… horrible company undermining every business they can with their own agenda of more more more.
Hope all is well! I've been meaning to order some more berries and you just gave me the push to do it and save a few bucks! I wish I could find a good affordable source for Durum berries, but the only place I can find them is on Amazon and they are still very expensive.
Hope you are having a great end of the summer.
Best,
Ian
I am on the mailing list for Benton Springs Mill so I get all their special prices etc via email. You may want to do that. I get my Durum berries from Breadtopia. I have narrowed it down to these two sources as it is always reliable if not cheap :) Take care and bake on !!! c
I think I’m on the mailing list but I have way too many email accounts between work and personal so I probably missed it. I have tried Breadtopia but their shipping to NY is expensive. I’ll hav3 to check it out again.
best,
Ian
Less than 24hrs. Turn around from Amazon. How do they do it? Regarding the Malt. I have had this one before. The package states manufa HBctured by RedStar. No mention of the % Linnter. That being said the listing gave the 69% number. People get very technical about many things in bread baking linnter is one of them. Many discussions here as well as on the pizza making forum. It's enough for me to know .1-5% malt as a guide line. After all, good bread has been made for 1000's of years with out all the very technical mombo jumbo. I do recall many discussions in the pizza club mentioning low Linnter value specifically.
I had two large jars of diastatic malt in the second basement fridge . Had forgotten they were there. Using it was always a problem as it always turned my dough to a sticky mess except in bagels, no matter how little I used.
Fast forward and I read about converting it to non- diastatic malt by heating briefly in the oven. Amazing and it works perfectly! I now use it as a sugar substitute getting a great flavor boost with no affect on my dough. I have posted this info before but thought I’d post again so that others interested in a flavor boost with an alternate sugar source could try it. it’s also possible to just add boiling water to the powder and the heat converts it that way. Cool before adding to dough.
https://www.google.com/search?q=convert+diastatic+malt+to+non+diastatic+in+oven&rlz=1CDGOYI_enUS676US676&oq=convert+diastatic+malt+to&aqs=chrome.2.69i57j0i546j69i59.15889j0j7&hl=en-US&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8
right after the pandemic hit. Here's the link. Pretty good selection of rye flours. The pumpernickel flour is a nice coarser grained flour or a fine grained meal. I think their dark rye flour is a whole grain one at least judging by the ash content. They sell them in 40 (or 50) pound sacks or 5 pound bags.