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Amount of protein in flour

RichieRich's picture
RichieRich

Amount of protein in flour

In most of my bread baking, I use King Arthur unbleached AP flour (11.7%) or KA unbleached bread flour (12.7%). 

 

Does 1% make that much difference.

 

 

breadforfun's picture
breadforfun

…there is about 10% more protein in the bread flour. 

Does it make a difference? I find the crumb of a bread made with bread flour is a bit chewier. A fluffy loaf like a French style baguette, made with low protein flour, is almost like cotton candy. That’s roughly the spectrum, and you can use either. 

-Brad

Abe's picture
Abe

Surely that's 1% increase.

Does it make a difference? Try the same recipe using both flours. That'll be the difference. 

breadforfun's picture
breadforfun

12.7 / 11.7 = 1.085, so it’s more accurately 8.5% more. I was rounding up. 

 

Abe's picture
Abe

Just clarifying. 

1% increase but 8.5% more protein. 

However, not all protein is gluten. That's not given. Only sure way to see the difference is to bake two identical loaves side-by-side. 

alcophile's picture
alcophile

King Arthur values are reported as gluten-forming protein.

Abe's picture
Abe

Well that'll certainly make a difference. 

mwilson's picture
mwilson

What assay do they use to determine protein content?

alcophile's picture
alcophile

I don't know how they measure it. It says "X% gluten-forming protein" on the bag. Maybe it's just a marketing ploy, but I can usually tell the difference between the two flours.

alcophile's picture
alcophile

Is there an industry standard for determining gluten-forming protein of flours? I see that the Cereals & Grains Assoc. lists a couple methods for gluten determination:

38-10.01 Gluten—Hand Washing Method
38-12.02 Wet Gluten, Dry Gluten, Water-Binding Capacity, and Gluten Index

I don't know if KAB uses either of these (if any) for their gluten values.

mwilson's picture
mwilson

Measuring nitrogen is quite common.

Kjeldahl Method - an overview | ScienceDirect Topics

Under AACC standards flour protein is reported as Nx5.7 on a 14% moisture basis.

alcophile's picture
alcophile

Do you know if any flour mills actually test for gluten content as per the AACC test method? Or, is total protein (Kjeldahl nitrogen) all that is actually tested and reported?

In the USA, I suspect the FDA requires the total protein on the label.

mwilson's picture
mwilson

I'm sure they do in some capacity, even if that means sending a sample to a lab to perform the analysis. I imagine testing for wet or dry gluten would be an internal spec. It is not however a legal requirement unlike protein included on nutritional labelling.

"Protein content may be calculated on the basis of the factor 6.25 times the nitrogen content of the food as determined by the appropriate method of analysis as given in the “Official Methods of Analysis of the AOAC International,” except when official AOAC procedures described in this paragraph (c)(7) require a specific factor other than 6.25, that specific factor shall be used."

eCFR :: 21 CFR Part 101 -- Food Labeling

AOAC Official Method 920.87
Protein (Total) in Flour

mwilson's picture
mwilson

Terms which could be used to describe those different perspectives of protein percentages are; absolute and relative.

Furthermore, not all gluten is the same.

KA AP is a blend of soft and hard wheat
KA BF is all hard wheat

Tombreadian's picture
Tombreadian

I really like this guy.

Abe's picture
Abe

Good video. And I too like the results of the 13% protein more so than the 14% protein. 

RichieRich's picture
RichieRich

What a great response to my question. You all certainly answered my questions and more.