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I need some feedback on my crumbs

Nicoz's picture
Nicoz

I need some feedback on my crumbs

This is a sourdough loaf I baked today. It has nice oven spring and a small ear, but I'm not quite satisfied with its crumb. I guess the big hole on the top is because of the cheese cubes as well as folding and shaping. But can anyone help me look at the crumb near the bottom? They're far closer and smaller than what I expected. 

Here is some information about this loaf:

80% King Arthur bread flour

20% whole wheat flour

78% hydration 

20% inoculation

2% salt

ambient temperature 66.2℉

bulk time 8 hours

I let the dough rise 80% before shaping.

cold proofing time 17 hours

 

And could you please give me some advice about how to achieve a more open and airy crumb (how much should I let my dough rise before shaping etc.)? Thank you!

Abe's picture
Abe

I think it looks very good. The ferment looks ok. As for the big holes I think that's just down to shaping. Or the cheese has helped create them. 

Nicoz's picture
Nicoz

Yes, I do think the crumb is not bad, though definitely not perfect. I guess it's slightly on the overproof side. 

rondayvous's picture
rondayvous

Looks nice, maybe slightly over proofed?

Nicoz's picture
Nicoz

I agree with you. I guess it's a little bit over proofed. I'm kind of struggling with bulk fermentation recently. When I let the dough rise 70% before shaping, it was under proofed. But this time with 80% rise, it is over proofed. Still trying to figure out when to end the bulk. 

Mini Oven's picture
Mini Oven

I think you just need to pop some of those large bubbles forming while shaping. Then you get a more accurate estimate of final proof volume before scoring and baking. 

rondayvous's picture
rondayvous

are you looking for an even more open crumb or a more evenly dispersed crumb with smaller openings?

Benito's picture
Benito

The fermentation looks good, the large alveoli are secondary to air trapped during folds and shaping.  Gentle pats during shaping and popping of bubbles during folds will help alleviate these.

Benny