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Gilded Fern's picture
Gilded Fern

American Baking Systems

Good afternoon,

We are cheese makers and recently moved to an area where there is no Grade A milk (so we had to buys cows!) and no artisan bread within a reasonable distance. We opened a small market which serves as a venue for producers. As an aside we started baking bread so that we would be able to offer delicious bread again once our creamery is finished. We purchased a single deck from American Baking Systems.

This has been a bit of a struggle for me. I was able to produce beautiful loaves using the Dutch Oven method but now that I have a real deck oven I am experimenting and tossing bread daily. The baguettes are more forgiving but the boules do not look right. I cannot get a beautiful crust. Both steam levels result in a tasty crust but boy are they ugly! I have tried high steam (10 sec) and low steam (3 sec) but I am hoping that someone with experience may be able to give me some guidelines as I am also working on the recipe end of things. Oven temp:450F; deck 425F. Baking for about 35 minutes (internal temp 195). Too many variables at the moment. It's interesting that the Dutch Oven method is so forgiving. It seems like it wasn't necessary that everything be perfect.

I should mention that I am using 20% WW (Mockmill) but I don't think I can blame this as I saw someone online make the most beautiful loaves with 60% wheat that he was grinding himself. It is quite possible that I am not proofing things correctly. 

Tomorrow is another day ... humph! Thanks for the help. I imagine there are others out there feeling the same pain at times. 

 

10 seconds steam

clevins's picture
clevins

Can you give some details about your formula (kinds of flour, hydration, sourdough, yeast, etc)? And your process for mixing, proofing etc? 


idaveindy's picture
idaveindy

First off, welcome to TFL!

We had a post/thread a while back that may be very close to what you need. Please read this post, including all the comments:

https://www.thefreshloaf.com/node/64854/deck-oven-problems-steam

The author of that post also thought it was a matter of steam, but for him, it was really a matter of turning off the upper heating element at some point prior to loading the bread.

Good luck, amigo. Here's hoping your business is a success.

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Added: that other baker was in South Africa, and it sounded like he had a pizza/bread oven, so it would be different from yours in detail. But maybe some principles might still apply.

VillageBakery's picture
VillageBakery

Not sure what you scale your boules to, but ours are typically 650g-680g @ 58-65% hydration.  On our ABS oven, bottom temp is set to 460, top temp set to 465, bake time 35-38min, steam set for 6 sec.

You might want to adjust your temps.  Also, I believe ABS recommends no more than a 10-15 degree difference between top and bottom set points.