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Miele Range with Moisture Plus: Any Opinions?

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Another Girl

Miele Range with Moisture Plus: Any Opinions?

Hi everyone. Visiting an appliance store this weekend, I came upon what I think is a fairly good close-out deal on a discontinued dual-fuel Miele range with a steam feature called Moisture Plus. The salesman said it is great for bread bakers. I've heard this before and am suspicious. They only have one left in stock so I'm thinking about jumping on it before it's gone. I'm wondering if anyone here owns a Miele range with this Moisture Plus feature and, if so, what your opinion is of the range in general and the steam functionality in particular? Thanks!

–AG

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gavinc

I have a Miele oven with the Moisture Plus function. It's fabulous!

I use it when demonstrating my DIY dough loader. I press the steam button at the end. (260) Home DIY dough loader - YouTube

Results example here: I've hit the maximum capacity of my oven. | The Fresh Loaf

 

 

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Another Girl

That's great, Gavin, I appreciate your thoughts. The range is a bit of an investment even at closeout pricing, so it helps to hear feedback from a real user. Would you say there was a big learning curve or was it an easy adjustment?

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gavinc

Very easy adjustment. At first, looks daunting, but after perusing the manual we found it easy. I recommend getting the Miele baking stone suitable for the model you purchase.

The moisture plus function can be used automatically or manually. I go with the manual method. 3 bursts of steam total. One 5 minutes prior to loading, then one after loading and another 5 minutes into the bake. It uses about 100ml of water per burst. You don't have to vent the oven, it finishes in a drying oven itself.

 

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Another Girl

Thank you for this information, Gavin. I was initially distrustful of the bread baking claims, but now I think I might take the plunge. Our aging gas range isn't dead yet, but after 20 years, it doesn't owe us anything (except maybe a decent loaf of bread). I thank you for your very helpful feedback.

–AG

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GlennM

We just bought a Miele oven on close out, it doesn’t have the steam option, I would have liked that, but so far it is really nice - replaced a 20 year old thermador 

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Another Girl

I'm glad to hear that you are happy with your Miele oven because we're paying for a lot of features that don't involve steam and of course we'll be using it for all of our cooking, not just bread so I like to know other Miele owners are happy with their purchase. Thank you for the feedback. I hope you continue to love yours!

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foodforthought

… double oven with “moisture plus” (requires plumbing water to stove) steam injection in the upper unit. Both ovens have proofing, and many other, functions. The steam and proofing are great features for bread bakers. I’m not always in love with their user interface code. The modal dialogs (OK, OK, OK…) and algorithmicaly not-very-“smart” procedural sequences are occasionally mildly annoying, but after using for 6-ish months, I’m mostly very happy with the ovens.

Miele has other ovens they dub “steam ovens” but I have no idea how they differ from the ovens (not many, btw) like mine. I think there may be some lost in translation complications here, possibly exacerbated by marketing jargon.

 

Phil

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Another Girl

I hear what you're saying about the marketing jargon. The product listing includes several features that seem very similar to other features with different names. That's a concern, but more of a concern is the unwieldy user interface. We have a microwave that requires us to hit eight – eight! – buttons to reheat a cup of coffee. Sheesh.

I was concerned that this oven might not produce enough steam... or the convection fan would set the crust too soon... or that there would be a big learning curve with times, temperatures, and steam. That doesn't seem to be the case. Thanks for your input. It helps a lot.

–AG

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foodforthought

It’s not fatal, but the programming style is a bit long in the tooth, possibly more German or more likely, more driven by engineer-who-thinks-all-users-are-incompetent-morons. Example: (to start proofing):

  1. set temp and duration (duration limited to 2 hours??? Why???)
  2. not very helpful message on screen: “Leave dough in oven until it has doubled in size”
  3. must hit OK to proceed
  4. next not very helpful message on screen: “Place food in oven”
  5. must at minimum open oven door (Miele is managing me here…)
  6. next not very helpful message on screen: “Shelf level 2”
  7. must hit OK to proceed
  8. at last something happens, oven comes to temp and remains that way for set duration. If you want to go longer, start again at 1

Annoying occasionally but the value of the features is greater than the obstacles placed in a mistaken understanding of of user friendliness. I would buy another if I was, god forgive, redesigning another kitchen.

Phil

Phil

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Another Girl

... however, your endorsement that the benefits outweigh the annoyance tells me a great deal. Thank you!

–AG

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GlennM

Our new Miele is fairly simple. Just two rotary knobs and a couple of touch buttons