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SAF Instant Premium Yeast

dmaclaren2's picture
dmaclaren2

SAF Instant Premium Yeast

Has anyone yet used the 'Premium" yeast?

I use red but I have read good things about this, is it better than adding ascorbic acid to the dough?

 

https://lesaffreyeast.com/product/saf-instant-premiumpurple/

 

 

 

idaveindy's picture
idaveindy

No experience - just pontificating here.   Looking at the ingredients on amazon:

Saf regular: yeast, sorbitan monostearate, ascorbic acid.

Saf premium: yeast, sorbitan monostearate, ascorbic acid, cellulose gum.

Of course, the proportions of sorbitan and ascorbic acid could be different too.

I note that my 4 oz jar of Fleishmann's instant yeast also lists sorbitan monostearate and ascorbic acid as ingredients.  Ascorbic acid is also a preservative, in addition to a dough conditioner.

From wikipedia:

"Sorbitan monostearate is primarily used as an emulsifier to keep water and oils mixed. Sorbitan monostearate is used in the manufacture of food and healthcare products and is a non-ionic surfactant with emulsifying, dispersing, and wetting properties. It is also employed to create synthetic fibers, metal machining fluid, and brighteners in the leather industry, and as an emulsifier in coatings, pesticides, and various applications in the plastics, food and cosmetics industries. Sorbitans are also known as "Spans". Sorbitan monostearate has been approved by the European Union for use as a food additive (emulsifier) (E number: E 491)."

Cellulose gum at Wiki:

"CMC powder is widely used in the ice cream industry, to make ice creams without churning or extreme low temperatures, thereby eliminating the need for the conventional churners or salt ice mixes. CMC is used in preparing bakery products such as bread and cake. The use of CMC gives the loaf a much improved quality at a reduced cost to the baker, by economizing on the fat component. CMC is also used as an emulsifier in high quality biscuits. By dispersing fat uniformly in the dough, it improves the release of the dough from the moulds and cutters, achieving well-shaped biscuits without any distorted edges. It can also help to reduce the amount of egg yolk or fat used in making the biscuits, thus achieving economy. Use of CMC in candy preparation ensures smooth dispersion in flavour oils, and improves texture and quality. CMC is used in chewing gums, margarines and peanut butter as an emulsifier. It is also used in leather crafting to burnish the edges."

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Net:  Saf premium adds "dough conditioner(s)."  

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Assumptions:  since this product is likely targeted at an "average" baking consumer, I would assume they proportioned the dough conditioners in it with the assumption that the customer would likely use the common standard of 1/4 oz (7 grams), or  2-1/4 teaspoons, ie one "packet" worth, per average loaf (about 1.5 pounds?).

Since  artisan bakers typically use a smaller amount of instant yeast than 2-1/4 tsp per equivalent loaf (making up for it with longer ferment times), the benefits of the dough conditioners would likely be diluted/reduced somewhat.

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Amazon shows a $2/lb price differential between regular and premium Saf, which works out to 3.125 cents per 1/4 oz(7 grams or 2-1/4 tsp).  Negligible, making it worth a try.  

Their promotional copy says you can use less of it than non-premium, so there could be a minor cost savings.

But then, any usage too far below their recommended usage level will likely not achieve the full "dough-conditioning" effect that the Saf folks had in mind.

 

dmaclaren2's picture
dmaclaren2

Great information, thanks for the complied information.

Angelica Nelson's picture
Angelica Nelson

I got a "message blocked" response from Fleischman's Yeast web email address, and all sorts of errors when I tried to use their contact page.  Their webiste doesn't include ingredients.  Did something happen? Were they sold to another company? 

I did find their corporate / pro baker site which also doesn't list ingredients.  And that email worked, but obviously I"ll have to wait for a reply.  It's so strange to have an official website without basic info like ingredients.

Anyone know what's up?

Angelica Nelson's picture
Angelica Nelson

It's been 24 hours and no reply yet from Fleischman's pro site email address.  Not even a "we got your message, be patient" canned reply.  So I'm guessing they're not reading it. If they reply I'll update, but it looks bad. My local Whole Foods carries Red Star packets, with no added ingredients, thank God. Stocked up.

cfraenkel's picture
cfraenkel

are exactly why I make sourdough bread and don't use commercial yeast - Red Star yeast in the little packets (not the jars) has ingredients: Yeast.  The jars also have sorbitan monostearate. For those of us with allergies, it makes a huge difference.

Just sign me,

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Angelica Nelson's picture
Angelica Nelson

You understand my concern exactly.  This is the only one I've seen so far that has nothing added:  https://redstaryeast.com/products/red-star/red-star-all-natural-active-dry-yeast/    They don't' mention corn though, so it may be in the media used.