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Glass jar with starter in broke... how to rescue the starter

flouryhands's picture
flouryhands

Glass jar with starter in broke... how to rescue the starter

The rim of the glass jar containing my sourdough starter cracked today when I tried to put the lid back on and a couple of glass shards came off on to the work surface.    I am concerned there may be some glass chips in the actual sourdough but it's impossible to tell.

I've tried to rescue the starter by dissolving a tablespoon of starter in quarter of a cup of water and pouring this through a fine tea strainer.   To the liquid I have added quarter cup of wholemeal flour.  I hope this will activate.    Is this likely to work or could I have used a better method?

It's a great starter and I don't want to loose it - just couldn't risk glass in my lovely loaves.

 

 

 

BrianK's picture
BrianK

I wouldn't take a chance.  Regardless of how good the starter is, do you really want to risk having broken glass in the bread?  I'd say throw it all out, and start over.  Better safe than sorry.

WoodenSpoon's picture
WoodenSpoon

just what you did. rinse as much as it as I could gather through the finest mesh I could find, then feed the water with equal weights flour.

doughooker's picture
doughooker

Keep a small jar of backup starter in the fridge to recover from such disasters (or mold). You can use it as inoculum for a new batch of starter. Anyway, the starter with the broken glass all has to be discarded.

Mini Oven's picture
Mini Oven

Here's what I would do.  Wait for the starter to mature, and the gluten to thin out.  Add water to make it into a milk and pour it thru a coffee filter or paper towel lined sieve.  

Take the milky water and add flour to feed.  finish.   Problem glass is in the paper towel because yeast and bacteria are so small they will pass thru the paper towel or paper coffee filter.  :)

What you did with the fine tea strainer is just as good. 

AbeNW11's picture
AbeNW11 (not verified)

Such as this one...

I like the idea of a screwtop as solves the problem on what to cover it with when starters are bubbling up. One needs to allow air to escape but keeping it covered at the same time. You can simply screw the cap on loosely. And of course you can't smash it.

PetraR's picture
PetraR

Hi AbeNW11

I am looking for such twist plastic containers, how much would they hold?

I need one that has space enoug for 100g starter fed with 100g flour and 100g water and room to double.

I was looking all over the Internet but I only finde small clip top ones..

AbeNW11's picture
AbeNW11 (not verified)

Hi Petra,

I bought mine in a local hardware store. I'll have a look around for you and let you know.

PetraR's picture
PetraR

Thank you Abe, 

I found some with clip tops, round ones like yours but they are to small for what I need.

I found them at Sainsbury.

We have  * Hurst * hardware stores here on the Isle of Wight, I shall have a look this week.

* My hubby get's scared when I tell him I go to hurst because I always spend on goods for baking  lol *

doughooker's picture
doughooker

I think it is foolish and dangerous to try to salvage any kind of food with broken glass in it, I don't care what you strain it through. I would err on the side of caution and make a new starter if you don't have some backup inoculum. It only takes a week and you'll be as good as new.

Ambimom's picture
Ambimom

Don't worry.  Same thing happened to me.   Just scoop a teaspoon (or more) of starter (being careful not to cut yourself) and set aside while you clean up the mess.  Now you just rebuild from this new "mother."  Add a cup or so of lukewarm water to the mother and equal amount of flour (in an appropriate container).  Let it sit in room temperature covered for at least 8 hours.  Starter should show signs of life.  Discard half and feed the rest with half cup water and cup of flour.  Cover and let sit.  Keep doing this until you have the quantity of starter you need.

PetraR's picture
PetraR

I would do as MiniOven said.

I do have glas jars with screw necks but I am looking for a plastic container such as AbeNW11 has.

Mine would need to hold 100g of starter that will be fed with 100g water and 100g flour. hmmm

For now I have mine in a widemouthed Ball Jar.

dabrownman's picture
dabrownman

glass Mason jar full of starter on the floor, I recovered by taking a bit making a liquid out of  and pouring it through a strainer lined with a paper towel.  Now, for a couple of years, I have stored my starter in the fridge in a plastic container that store bought frosting for cakes came it.  Perfect food grade plastic that has a lid,   I also build my levains in them too,

Mini Oven's picture
Mini Oven

my rye starter is chilled in the 500ml plastic beaker that came with my mixer wand some umpteen years ago.  It came with a snap on lid and the sides are marked.  I like deli pint size containers too, can stack them up in one spot, oldest on the bottom and I like glass stackables as well.  

So break a glass jar ever so often, shouldn't be big deal.  Also when the little glass pieces are in a milky sourdough water mixture, the glass will sink to the bottom, just give it a chance and pour slowly off the top and throw the bottom bits to the trash.   

There is a certain security with glass that plastic chemicals are not in constant contact with the starter.  

jcope's picture
jcope

I've been trying to cut down on plastic for food storage.  I use the small 8oz Bell jars.  No breaks so far.

alfanso's picture
alfanso

If you are in the States, the type of item below goes under the brand name of Tupperware, but it has become a generic description of pretty much any softish rubbery plastic food storage tub.  I keep my stiff levain culture in one of these containers in the refrigerator, with a plastic film tucked tightly on top to keep any ambient air from hardening up the surface.  This only gets refreshed once every ~3 months, so it lives there a long time, and the container never gets washed.  

Just for some ideas for the future - I also keep a backup thumb-sized piece of stiff levain wrapped tightly in plastic film elsewhere in the fridge, some frozen levain from 9 months ago as well as dried flaked levain to revive kept in a jar in the cupboard.  All as a hedge against any issue with the current batch.  And also in the event of a nuclear disaster, I'm ready ;-) .  Over the top?  Sure.  but the price of doing it was a few minutes of my time, zero cost and provides a host of options.

Sorry about the glass issue, I would not take the risk, although other folks seem to speak from personal experience. 

flouryhands's picture
flouryhands

Hi,  I am  so grateful for all this advice - thank you all!

I think the reason the glass broke on the kilner jar was because I was using it without the rubber seal, so when levering the lid down it put stress between the glass lid and jar.

I decided in the end to discard the starter.  My dad still has some of the original batch so I can get some more on my next visit so all is not lost.

I like the idea of a plastic container in future, and also keeping some back up in the form of a stiff levain in the fridge.  Lesson learned!

Thanks again!

mickeyk44's picture
mickeyk44

I would do the coffee filter if the starter is not replaceable

 and when you get it going or replace it dry and freeze some as a backup

 the dollar store has nice drinking cups made of plastic that have a little hole for a straw tape a coffee filter or gauze pas over the hole to keep fruit flies and stray microbes out of your starter 

doughooker's picture
doughooker

What's the resistance to making a new starter? You may have to do this someday if your starter goes moldy.

I store my starter in a glass jar in which preserves are sold (jam, jelly, marmalade). It has a metal lid which doesn't screw on like a mason jar. It just takes a little twist and it's sealed. It would take a lot of work to over-torque the lid. The lid is also lined with plastic. You could also use a baby-food jar but they have a pretty small capacity.

I prefer not to store my starter in polyethylene plastic, such as Tupperware.