January 29, 2013 - 7:16pm
Pineapple Starter Day 4 Help
Today is day 4 of my pineapple starter and nothing noteworthy has happened. A thin layer has formed on top which tells me that something is happening. Instead of following up with the 2:1:1 feeding ratio, I just added another 2 tbsp of WW flour and juice since there has been no rise and very little activity. I have also replace the cling wrap with the lid that has a few holes poked in the lid and placed it in a cool oven with a temp of 81. Hopefully with these changes, I will see some significant activity and proceed to 2:1:1 feedings. In the event that I don't notice any significant changes, should I continue to just add the 2 tbsp of WW flour and juice or move on with the 2:1:1 feedings?
I'm new to this too, and the farthest thing from an expert. I was in the same boat as you, and eventually got a starter to start--it just takes time.
It should happen, though the wait can be excruciating. I doubt you still need the juice. I also seem to recall reading that the temp you cite might be good for developing the bacteria you want (and initially, that may make the higher temp useful), but once the yeast becomes active, you probably want to be a few degrees cooler than that.
Have you read the original write-up on Pineapple starters by Debra Wink? It's kind of an ur-text; here's the link: http://www.thefreshloaf.com/node/10901/pineapple-juice-solution-part-2 .
I'll quote the basic instructions (and note in particular the Day 4 and beyond piece), but I recommend the whole thing, parts 1 & 2, if you want to get some insight on the process:
Its funny how thing happen. At 9:30pm I mixed the 2tbsp of flour and juice and placed them in the cool oven and decided to write my post. At 12am i was curious if anything was going on and pow it has risen 1/4in and has some bubble throughout. Finally I can relax and look forward to feeding it tomorrow.
http://www.thefreshloaf.com/node/31980/young-starter-vs-mature-starter
My just posted comment still applies...
I used the same starter recipe. On day 4, same thing happened. I thought it was dead. My starter was a bit on the runny side and I posted a comment here. I was told to add only flour and no water to tighten up the starter and within three hours, it was all good.
I kept my starter on top of my upright freezer to keep a steady temp. The week I started it, the weather had turned cold in S Louisiana so I had to find a warm place for it to strive.
After about 9 or 10 days, I put the starter in the fridge and feed it once a week unless I need the starter then I go to a two day feeding schedule to produce the amount of starter I need.
Since there was some activity last night, I am going to proceed with the first feeding with water as noted. I am also going to keep two starters at this point one for WW and the other AP.
Hi Kap,
I am about 2 hours shy of the end of the third day here in Chilly Broolyn (using a desk lamp to keep starter at "room temps."). I have been using the 2 Tbsp Rye/WW flour (1 of each) and 2 TBS pineapple juice. Its wet and smells like "yeasty paint thinner", which, I understand, is as it should be. I have a thick paste with a wet surface (hooch?) but no bubbles. I am not sure that I am ready to start feeing it yet and was thinking of a 4th day of flour & juice. I was not sure if that was advisable but since you have reported that it worked for you, I am going to try it. I guess it just takes an extra day or so in the winter.
Kneads,
Well I am probably the last person to give advice since I am about the same age as my starter when it comes to baking. I was reluctant to feed on the 4th day and I am glad I did, who knows if would of been good/bad idea. I figured that an extra day would help my peace of mind more than the starter. Yesterday was my first feeding without the juice and man oh man guess they were hungry b/c they doubled in size with hundreds of small bubbles littering the starter. I reserved 2oz of starter and created two starters: one WW and AP 1 oz and 1 oz of water. Mixed at 9pm and by 11pm they were both double in size. At around midnight they had dropped almost to their original size. I am keeping them both at room them which is about 75ish. I also place them in a cool oven around 80 degrees, so maybe that is what gave them a boost, who knows. Since our starters are at the same stage it would be nice to compare notes as to what the progress is, so don't hesitate to send me a message if you have a question. Good luck with your starter.