Brioche question
Hello,
recentlly i am trying to improve my brioche skils.
I made 2 classic brioche receips but unfortuantlly the dough wasn't rise enough.
finally i found another receipe from KAF which was very good in a matter of texture but the flavors was poor( in my opinion).
anyway i was searching the web for other brioche receips and found several differences and methods.
1. some of them are not using any liquid instead of butter and eggs and some of them using around 1\4 to 1\2 water\milk\orange juice.
the receips whice i faild with them was without water. the KAF was with water which was easier to handle.
2. another issue is the butter temparature. some of them insist to use cold butter and some of them using soft butter.
can anyone put some light about those methods ?
I've also had a lot of success with a brioche recipe that calls for melted butter & water.
I tried one with butter & no water (only eggs) this past weekend, and thought that the dough was underhydrated--it was tearing when I kneeded it--despite being very soft b/c of all the butter.
I added a little bit of water, and the dough responded well--it stretched nicely, and rose well.
So I think underhydration of the dough, preventing gluten development, may be an issue with some recipes that don't call for any liquid other than eggs.
As far as I can tell, the cold vs. melted butter doesn't make much of a difference, since we're not making pastry here. I will probably go with melted in the future because it's easier.
Hi Yuval,
Here is my experience with Brioche. First, I should mention that using melted butter and cold butter makes two different products. The melted butter will give a more cake-like texture, whereas the cold butter will give a more honeycomb like texture. I think that a brioche should have a honeycomb texture. (It all has to do with the way the fat coats the flour particles). Also, I prefer an all-egg brioche to a liquid-and-egg brioche (and I've tried water, orange juice, and milk, among liquids). Some brioche recipes will have you first make a sponge or a poolish; I don't think that it is necessary.
My favorite brioche recipe, and then one I have had the most success with, is Richard Bertinet's recipe from "Crust" (an excellent book that should be on the shelves of any bread baker). Incidentally, it is also the first brioche recipe I have ever attempted. It is a hand-kneaded dough. I recommend to anyone making brioche to try their hands at making brioche dough by hand. It is very satisfying and also quite magical in how the dough comes together. You also learn a lot about proper brioche dough this way. I should mention that the first time I made this recipe, I forgot to add the sugar (and thus reaffirmed that fat in the dough does not hinder yeast growth whereas sugar does, contrary to popular belief).
Anyhow, on to the recipe. I do diverge from Bertinet's instructions slightly, as I will mention soon.
Ingredients:
Preparation:
I see how cold butter would make a difference there. I wound up having to work my dough a long time, so my butter melted anyway.
Funnily enough, I was trying to follow the Bertinet recipe--I may have misweighed my eggs, and the dough was quite dry (not workable by the french fold method) so I had to add the butter more quickly to get it to a workable state.
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