Good morning everyone!
I make bread since ~1 year, no machines. My technology has been so far just have a Dutch oven. My results so far are.. Mixed.
I want to invest in a machine that will last me years and let me explore different things. My ultimate goal is making perfect artisanal-level panettone (never succeeded so far)
I make small batches (~300g of flour) a couple of times a week.
I am very fascinated by the Ankarsrum and the Kitchenaid Heavy duty (this most for the design I admit), but online I saw so many contrasting reviews that I am very confused at the moment.
I am also open to other alternatives, cheaper is better, but I am ready to invest.
I came to this forum looking for a more engineered and geeky perspective. I am a total newbie, but this for me is a hobby and I am ready to learn and practice (If I just wanted bread, I would buy it at a bakery)
Can I reach top result with the KA or the Ank? Should I check something entirely different? I have to say that as a geek myself I am also fascinated by the machines themselves, so sometimes I end up spending more than the required just to be able to play with a more advanced toy. I am fine with that.
Thank you very much!
You could also consider the Ooni spiral mixer.
TomP
Hello Tom
Yes I considered that as well, I discarded it mostly because it does not do anything else other than kneading
That's not entirely true, according to a few reviews I saw -
https://www.seriouseats.com/ooni-halo-pro-spiral-stand-mixer-review-11716866
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtqjGJeGxYM
https://www.wired.com/review/ooni-halo-pro-spiral-mixer/
I meant you can't plug in a meat grinder to make salami or one of those things for pasta
I bought a Kitchen Aid mixer for my wife as a Christmas present in 1988. It is used at least once a week and still works as well now as it did in 1988. it also has an attachment you can use to grind meat and another to make pasta which we use regularly.
We have had ours for years. It was one of the bigger ones where the mixer bowl goes up and down rather than the mixer head tilting back. I have no idea if the quality has changed since ours was made.
Ours works with several attachments including:
It does fine with double batches of whole grain doughs. With extra-large batches of stiff dough, the motor gets warm fast but using it carefully doesn't seem to be a problem
Overall it works fine for the breads I make, typically once a week. I virtually always use the dough hook (although the formula for Latvian Coarse Rye called for the mixer paddle, which I used). You could probably make a nice souffle with the whip.
Here's what Google AI says about KA then and now, and which models to consider:
The question of whether modern KitchenAid mixers match the quality of those from 20–30 years ago is a popular debate among home bakers. While the iconic design remains largely unchanged, there are key differences in internal components and motor technology that distinguish today's models from their predecessors.
The "Hobart" Era vs. Modern Manufacturing
Before the mid-1980s, KitchenAid mixers were manufactured by Hobart, a company known for heavy-duty commercial equipment. These vintage "Hobart-era" mixers are often considered the "gold standard" because they were built with strictly industrial-grade parts.
In contrast, modern mixers are produced by Whirlpool. While many parts are still interchangeable, several updates have been made to manage costs and safety:
Which Modern Models Are "Best"?
If you are looking for the durability of the older machines, the higher-end Bowl-Lift models are generally built to a higher standard than the entry-level tilt-head models.
Summary: Old vs. New
While the entry-level mixers of today may feel slightly "lighter" than those from 30 years ago, KitchenAid remains one of the few brands that still builds repairable home appliances. Almost every part of a modern mixer can be replaced, ensuring they can still last for decades with proper maintenance.
…once in the middle of a 120 dozen Christmas Cookie frenzy and once while kneading focaccia dough. Never looked back after buying an Ankarsrum 3-4 years ago. I regularly mix 2-3 kg dough batches and occasionally whip up a Basque Cheesecake or crème pâtissière. Yes you can purchase meat grinder and other accessories to attach at the power take-off port. The Ank is a great machine and, as I recently discovered, can actually clean itself.
I have a Bosch Compact mixer and it is a great little mixer. It can mix dough up to 1.5 kg, so if your needs are small batches, then it could be an option. I've mixed over 1 kg of heavy rye dough and whole wheat doughs around 1 kg. I haven't had any problem with it overheating on prolonged mixing like I've read can happen with KAs. Unfortunately, it is no longer available in the US, but used ones do show up on the auction sites.
Not to diminish any advice you will receive here, but you should also check out the Mixer-Owners group at groups.io. You will find them very helpful as well.
The Bosch Compact would be a good choice if you can find one, but they don't offer it new, you would likely have to find one used https://www.bosch-home.com/us/en/product/MUM4405UC