Old-School Deli Rye - The Rye Baker

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This formula from "The Rye Baker" has a typo.

Old-School Deli Rye

The instructions say:

  • Day 1 Morning - Mix Sponge 1; ferment 10-12 hrs, overnight
  • Day 1 Afternoon - Mix Sponge 2, adding  flour and water to Sponge 1 (wait, isn't Sponge 1 fermenting overnight?)
  • Day 2 Morning - Mix final dough, proof, divide, shape, bake

Does anyone have a later edition in which this was clarified?

Maybe the stage 1 sponge does ferment overnight, after it has become the stage 2 sponge, perhaps 4-5 hr after the stage 1 sponge was mixed?

In any case, other 40% ryes aren't bad, especially for non-hard core whole grainers.  Sourdough Baurenbrot (formula) Bauernbrot Photos isn't bad.  I was looking for another 40% rye for people far from New York City and found these back-to-back in Hamelman's "Bread", 2nd edition 40% Caraway Rye & Whole-Rye and Whole-Wheat.  My gut microbiome started shouting for the whole rye/whole wheat which gets the whole grains up to 50%.  And Hamelman writes that the 40% Caraway Rye makes nice rolls.

I'm gonna try all of these at some point. Thanks for posting them.

I've written about this before, so please forgive the repetition: when it comes to deli rye, I can't resist plugging my spin on Ilya Flyamer's great (and super easy) formula. These days, my go-to version is 45% whole rye | 10% whole spelt | 45% bread flour | 1% caraway | 1% salt. Ferment all the rye at somewhere between a 5% & 8% inoculation and around a 70 - 75% hydration for 8 - 12 hours. Combine with all the other ingredients at somewhere between 75% and 80% hydration (it's better to mix with the water first and then add the dry ingredients). Knead for maybe 15 minutes. Approx. two hours bulk (with a couple of stretch 'n' folds). Shape. Approx one hour proof. Bake in a dutch oven 40 - 45 min at 232C/450F, 20 min w lid, 20 min w/o, 5 min out of the container entirely to firm up the sides.

See also:

https://www.thefreshloaf.com/node/79055/rye-trying-times

https://www.thefreshloaf.com/node/73244/45-rye

Rob