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Ankarsrum 6220 VS 6230

buddylee1998's picture
buddylee1998

Ankarsrum 6220 VS 6230

I'm making the investment into the highly desirable world of Ankarsrum. However, I noticed that a new model, 6230, was recently released. I can buy the 6220 for about $100 cheaper. I am having trouble comparing the two. Can someone help with this please!? Is the newer model worth an extra $100? Thank you!

barryvabeach's picture
barryvabeach

Call Pleasant Hill Grain  they should be able to tell you the difference.  https://pleasanthillgrain.com/

I recall reading that the knobs were changed to metal from plastic, which makes it much less likely to break a knob, though I only recall seeing a report of one broken knob, so doubt that is worth $100.  Not sure what else changed.  I have the older model and it works great.  

 

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jimbtv

This comes from a Q & A feed about the mixer:

"The 6220 has plastic control knobs and a 5 year warranty. The new 6230 model has all metal control knobs, and more comfortable shaped knob for tightening the mixing arm as well as a 7 year warranty. Those are the only different here in the North American model. In Europe there was an increase in the motor wattage but no changes to the motor here in the US and Canada."

 

Jim

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DanAyo

I called the American distributor and was told exactly what Jim stated above. I was also told the the motor in both of the models were identical. So even though the latest version has a warranty of 2 years longer on the motor, the actual motors are the same.

I have the plastic knobs and they look and work fine for me. Not cheap looking at all.

Dan

barryvabeach's picture
barryvabeach

Based on what Jim posted, I would save the $100.  I have only read one post of a knob being broken, and I would hope that even if that happened, the replacement cost was less than $100.  

jimbtv's picture
jimbtv

The only way I can see how one might bread a knob would be to drop the bowl on it, or to slam some other counter top appliance into it. Knobs are listed as replacement parts on the web.

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twodognite

The major difference that I can see (from their site) is the newer machine has a 7 year warranty while the older machine only has a 5 year warranty.

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Margit

Hello, I`m from Germany,

I use my Ankarsrum since years for my, sometimes very heavy, bread dough.

The mayor difference is not the warranty, the major difference is the power.

The "old" machine has a power of 800 Watt, the new machine is much stronger, 1500 Watt.

 

 

jimbtv's picture
jimbtv

Margit, that is true of the Euro model but not of the US model. From everything I have read the US motor is the same as the older unit.

 

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gary.turner

I gave myself an Assistent, model 6120, for Christmas, 2010. It has a 600W motor. The thing to remember about this machine is that power doesn't matter. The motor works against the torsion arm, not the dough. Even stiff doughs such as for bagels strains the motor only slightly more than a like weight of a high hydration dough; that, because the arm will be set farther from the rim (greater torsion).

I have used my mixer for Prince Biskits. The method calls for beating the  (cookie) dough for one hour. Even at a good speed, there was only a barely noticeable warming.

If I haven't succumbed to senile dementia, I recall that earlier models were 350W. Am I conflating that with some other mixer?

From my experience (seven years at the end of this month), which seems to be common, I'd say save the hundred bucks. If you can get an eyes on, hands on check out of a used DLX/Assistent/Ankarsrum or even an earlier incarnation, save even more bucks.

gary

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barryvabeach

Gary,  I have one of the earlier models,  when it was marketed as a Magic Mill -  450 watts,  but still plenty of power due to the design.  IIRC, my model also has a lower top speed than the later models, but that doesn't make any difference to me since I use it mostly for making bread, and the few times I have used it to whip cream or make egg whites, it was fast enough for me.  

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Jayabakes

Hi Margit, was there a recipe book included in the box with your 800w Ankarsrum? I just bought an older 800w model (discounted) but there is an empty space which seems like there should be a recipe book included, but the book is missing. Thanks

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Margit

Hello jimbtv, this is really interesting, that the new model (AKM 6230) is different in US an Europe. Look on here (it's german, but you can see that the new modell is much stronger, now 1500 Watt, compared to the former model, 800 Watt): http://www.ankarsrum-kuechenmaschine.de/
 Margit 

 

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MonkeyDaddy

so I'll ask it...

How can I get one of the European models, and if I do will it be usable with standard 120V/15 amp American household current?

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DanAyo

The extra wattage shouldn't make an discernable difference. I think this is because the bowl rotates around the kneading tools, unlike the KitchenAid where the tools turn and rotate around the bowl. The Ank is a beast. I haven't made that much dough yet, but I've read that it can handle an 8 pound batch with no problems.

The unit requires no more power. No idea why they increased the wattage on the Euro models.

Dan

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gary.turner

As I recall,   the UK and the EU standardized at a nominal 240Vrms at 50Hz. I don't know what running a 50Hz motor at 60Hz will do other than raising the motor's speed. Will that affect torque? I don't know.

gary

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albacore

The Ankarsrum mixer used to use a series wound or universal motor and probably still does, so speed is independant of frequency; ie if the voltage is the same, you will get the same speed at 50Hz as 60Hz. I used to own an N24 and, interestingly, the motor was nearly identical to the one in a Flymo lawnmower! Both Electrolux products at the time, I guess.

I'm sure the wattage of 110v versions will be plenty enough for all dough mixing applications. It's probably a case of more watts, more power, some new sales.

If you look at a proper spiral mixer like a Haussler Alpha, the smallest one is "only" 370W, but it can knead 16lbs of dough.

Of course, there are spiral mixers that are a lot cheaper than the Haussler if you want a "real" dough mixer ;)

Lance

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Bread doc

I am new to sourdough baking, and got a wonderful starter culture from a friend. However, I was finding the beating and kneading pretty tiring (70 years old, and have shoulder tendinitis, yet). So after some checking I got an Ankarsrum Assistent 6220. Everyone I have contacted loves theirs, and say it goes for years & years. They are so well designed, quiet, good looking and super functional. The dough is processed in no time and has a wonderful elasticity which produced a super consistency in the crumb. Don't waste your time with anything else!

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jules saisart

Bonjour  je peux avoir pour 428 euros  un modéle 6220  récent est ce que je prends un gros risque  en l'achetant  ?

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barryvabeach

Jules,   I am sorry I don't speak or write french ,but did a google translate and your question appears to be whether you should buy a Ankarsrum for $428 Euros.   I am not familiar with the market prices in France.  Here in the US,  before Covid , you could normally find an Ankarsrum for around $300 or less,  plus shipping.  Since Covid, the demand for bakery related items has gone through the roof , including mixers, so it would probably be in the $400 to $450 US.

  I used google to translate my answer back to French - hope it reads okay.  

Jules, je suis désolé de ne pas parler ou écrire le français, mais j'ai fait une traduction de Google et votre question semble être de savoir si vous devriez acheter un Ankarsrum pour 428 euros. Je ne connais pas les prix du marché en France. Ici aux États-Unis, avant Covid, vous pouviez normalement trouver un Ankarsrum pour environ 300 $ ou moins, plus les frais de port. Depuis Covid, la demande d'articles liés à la boulangerie a explosé, y compris les mélangeurs, donc elle se situerait probablement entre 400 et 450 dollars américains.

J'ai utilisé google pour traduire ma réponse en français - j'espère qu'elle se lit bien.

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barryvabeach

Jules, I wanted to say that while I'm not sure if this is a good price this is a great machine for baking and should last a very long time, it is very well designed.

Jules, je voulais dire que même si je ne sais pas si c'est un bon prix, c'est une excellente machine pour faire du pain et devrait durer très longtemps, elle est très bien conçue.

 

By the way,  I translated the above sentence from English to French and back to English and the meaning stayed the same, this Google translate is a pretty good thing. 

Au fait, j'ai traduit la phrase ci-dessus de l'anglais vers le français et de nouveau vers l'anglais et le sens est resté le même, cette traduction Google est une très bonne chose.