finaly made it
Just got back from the suppler.
picked up everything but the shortening dam i forgot it ill get it in a week or so i do have enough on hand to het stared for the holidays
just so it was not a lost day i made these
i made a video showing the way to shape but it did not come out well i will edit it and post it i guess to you tube and link to it latter.
when you see the vid note thst the thumb does not move or come out of the roll untill the last fold. about 1/3 to 1/2 of the dough is folded over the thumb. you will also see that each bloomed in the oven and is not atached to the other folds. by the look you can tell the roll is hand shapped and not cut or stamped. rye flour helps this with out it the roll will look like the shape is cut into the dough rather than formed.