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Blackberry Yeast Water bread

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Lazy Loafer

Blackberry Yeast Water bread

After some inspiration from recent posts about different kinds of yeast water folks are making, I revived one I'd had neglected in my fridge for about a year. It was originally made with plums from my back yard, but I ended up maintaining the apple one I made at the same time and ignoring the plum one, until now. I took it out - it looked and smelled fine, so I scooped out the depleted plum pulp and dumped in a handful of fresh blackberries. After two days it was beautifully fizzy and smelled great!

I followed Hamelman's recipe for Swiss Farmhouse Bread (from "Bread"), more or less. The first build was a bit of a disappointment. After sitting for most of the day it was stretchy but had no perceptible rise at all.

Given that result I deviated from the recipe and used yeast water (rather than plain water) for the second build as well, and left it overnight. Much better results - this morning it was billowy and smelled lovely.

I made the dough as per the recipe except rather than raisins I used chopped prunes (it did start as plum water, after all). Also, I don't really like nuts in bread so didn't add the walnuts. The dough was very strong and I found it a little stiff so added a bit more water while mixing (in the Ank). I did two stretch & folds 30 minutes apart as the fruit wasn't quite evenly distributed. Very strong, smooth dough. I put it in a clear container so I could look for bubbles. YW dough seems to ferment / proof differently. There seems to be very little action for the longest time and then, suddenly, it's ready! Bulk ferment was a little longer than Hamelman's instructions though the dough temperature was almost identical to his. I divided into three loaves rather than two, as we like smaller loaves for just the two of us (so, three loaves at around 640 grams each). Pre-shape was a dream; this dough is so soft and silky, and has terrific gluten development.

After proofing the loaves were still holding their shape perfectly.

I baked it in cast iron pots at 440F to start, then down to 425 after the lids were removed. I'm glad I used a slightly lower temperature than normal so it didn't burn at all. When I took the pots out of the oven they looked so good I couldn't wait to take a picture. :)

The loaf maintained its beautiful shape throughout, with great oven spring.

And the crumb is absolutely wonderful - moist, light and creamy, with a delicate flavour and a thin tender crust. The texture of the best sourdough with no sour! I'm very, very happy with this bread and will maintain that plum/blackberry yeast water now for sure!

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Danni3ll3's picture
Danni3ll3

I haven’t had any luck with that recipe. I ended up with a brick both times I made it. Yours is stunning! 

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Lazy Loafer

Thanks Danni. I think timing is of the essence with YW bread. The first build did nothing at all, so as I said I used YW for the second build too, and it took off. But the final dough looked like it was doing nothing much at all until suddenly it was perfect! I think if I had shaped it a little too soon or too late it would have been a spectacular failure. It's a good thing I had time today to watch it like a hawk. :)

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Danni3ll3

I watched mine and let it go for hours and it did absolutely nothing! I think you have a knack for this yeast water thing. Maybe one day, I’ll get the courage to try again. I do have something sitting in the fridge that is supposed to be yeast water. 😂

By the way, I was just scouring your posts about doing bulk in the fridge and baking a couple of hours later. The reason was that once the bulk fermentation was just about done, I put the dough in the fridge for 4 hours while I headed off to pottery. When I got back, I let it rest 20 minutes after dividing before shaping it. I couldn’t decide whether to bake it tonight or put it back in the fridge and bake in the morning. I didn’t know if the four hours was long enough to be considered an overnight bulk retard the way you do or not.  I chickened out and let it rise on the counter for 90 minutes and put it in the fridge to bake in the morning. I figured the dough wouldn’t be so floppy, and maybe my little proofing seam side up and scoring experiment to see if I get better ears would be easier. 

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Lazy Loafer

Let me know how it turns out in the morning. I think the longer bulk may provide better flavour, but probably doesn't do too much for structure (more than the bulk ferment and 4 hour retard that you did, I mean).

Try scoring the boule with a 'smile' and see how that does for producing ears (okay, too many mixed facial metaphors!).

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leslieruf

wish I could bake, no time at the moment.  crumb looks lovely - yum yum all round.  When we get home again YW will definitely be on the bake list - will feed it tomorrow and let it sleep for a month - should be fine.  I am amazed that yours was still good after such a long sleep though.

bake happy Wendy

Leslie

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Lazy Loafer

What kind of yummy yeast waters are you making? You said raspberries, right? Anything else? I'd really like to try some of the herbal ones that folks have made (like rosemary).

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leslieruf

Yes it is raspberry, it smells divine and looks gorgeous! I did’t have a very big harvest this year so only have a small amount of berries frozen.  just enough give it a few berries from time to time. Mostly feeding it raisins for now.  Trailrunner’s tip of adding some fresh orange peel has really been beneficial.

maybe next summer I will try some other fruit as well.

Leslie

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yozzause

That certainly has turned out a treat , im quite fascinated and tempted to give this yeast water a go my self, is it just a matter of capturing your natural yeasts and the ones present on the fruits themselves getting them working  with the fizz and then building your levan prior to your intended bake.

The fact that it was in the fridge for such an extended period has a great deal of appeal.

Very nice result there Wendy 

kind regards Derek 

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Abe

I think the ending is always a nice surprise with yeast water. For what it's worth my experience with this recipe is very much like yours. First build is a bit meh, second build (although I've always switched to water in this stage) is much better and the recipe is showing a lot more promise, the bulk ferment needs warm temps and I think even a slight fluctuation can alter the timings a lot but it comes through in the end, final proof goes smoothly as long as the bulk ferment is done properly and the bake is always a nice surprise. Oven spring is excellent, the smell coming from the bread is awesome, the taste and crumb just perfect. Your loaf looks wonderful! Lovely! Wendy.

- Abe.

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not.a.crumb.left

and what a bake Wendy. I really must give YW a try....I am waiting for the figs on my tree to ripen....lovely, lovely looking bread. Kat

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trailrunner

I have an apple YW ciabatta style 50/50 ww and unbleached loaf in the fridge at the moment. Joze suggested in his thread that retarding the levain to let it ferment longer might be a good thing to try as he has done. I have done so in the past but for this upcoming bake did it again. Will post later today if it's a success :) 

Your bakes are always lovely !   c

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Ru007

I didn't know yeast water could survive for that long with no maintenance. 

The crumb looks perfect! 

Well done Wendy and happy baking

Ru

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dabrownman

hers out fo the fridge after months and months for a bake.  I am always amazed at how well these breads puff themselves up in the heat f th iven,  This one looks par for the course.  Very nice indeed and 

Happy baking LL