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Almost Miccone pasta dura :-)

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inumeridiieri

Almost Miccone pasta dura :-)

Miccone pasta dura

This is a typical bread of North Italy. Low hydration, lard and smooth crumb :-)

I made a mistake...yesterday i prepared old dough ( pasta di riporto ) but i forget to put in the dough...

This bread is favolous with cheese and ham or salami ( salame )

Recipe

White flour 1000 g

Old dough ( i forgot ) 300 g

Water 460 g

Lard 30 g

Yeast 25 g

Sugar 10 g

Salt 20 g

No bulk fermentation, only 5 minutes, shape and final proof.

No good oven spring...next bake i use biga + old dough

Gaetano

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Danni3ll3

even if you forgot the old dough. It looks nice and tender. How do you like the flavour?

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inumeridiieri

This bread is particular...low hydration and lard bring softness. Lard increase shelf life, together with biga...next time biga :-) and old dough if i don't forget :-)

Gaetano

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Lechem (not verified)

and there is added yeast in the final dough. I imagine the old dough (or as we call it "pate fermentee") would have added more flavour. 

Nice save. Looks very good. Favoloso!

P.s. wouldn't using a Biga and Old Dough just be almost the same thing? 

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inumeridiieri

Yes old pate fermentee ( thanks i have more difficult with technical terms in English, your help is providential ) is for flavor and rise. This bread needs more oven spring this is the reason of biga e pate fermentee. Low hydration and lard, slows down and counteracts the action of yeast

Pate fermentee, usualy i italy, is surplus of the previous mixture...hydration can change by 50/60/65%. Biga is more controlled. 45% hydration, 18°C  fermentation and 15/18 or 24 hours ( sometime 48 )

For pasta dura there is always biga + yeast in the final dough and often pate fermentee

Gaetano

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Lechem (not verified)

You're teaching me a great deal about Italian bread. 

Keep them coming! 

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inumeridiieri

Thank you @Lechem i learn more things by the forum...The fresh loaf is great :-) 

A question: i have a dream :-) make a recipe together: forum italia and The fresh loaf... one day bread, one day pizza...

What do you think?

Gaetano

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Lechem (not verified)

You'll get full support from us all. Lead the way...!

Great idea ☺

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inumeridiieri

I'm working on it :-)

Gaetano

P.S. http://www.laverace.info/forum/index.php I talked to them ... I look reply

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breadforfun

Hi Gaetano. That is a great shape, very eye catching.  It reminds me of some breads that I saw in Spain one time.  Those weren't terribly tasty, but your looks like it would be.  Did you make a video of the shaping for this loaf or could you describe how to do it?  Thanks.

-Brad

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inumeridiieri

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4I2BnJbOHM

Giorilli shape...

I have to work still a lot :-)

Hi Brad

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breadforfun

They make it look so easy, no?

Thanks Gaetano.

-Brad

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inumeridiieri

It's not difficult. The key of this bread is knead, Miccone ( pasta dura ) must be smooth and fluffy in the crumb but the crust must be crisp and crumbly. Next time i want to do Biova, a typical bread piemontese.

Gaetano

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breadforfun

Hi Gaetano. I looked up Biova and it looks like an interesting bread.  I didn't see anything like it when I was in Piemonte last year.  Are you from that region?

-Brad

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inumeridiieri

Near :-) It's a traditional Nord bread but now is less do.

Gaetano