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Where do you buy your grains or flours ONLINE?

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Gingi's picture
Gingi

Where do you buy your grains or flours ONLINE?

Guys,

Any recommendations for a good site for grains and/or flours (other than KA which I'm aware of for flour)?

Thanks.

gingi

 

   
David Esq.'s picture
David Esq.

The least expensive is probably going to be Wal-Mart.com, if you are not going for organic.

If you are looking for Organic Wheat Berries, definitely look on Amazon.com, particularly if you are a prime member (30 Day Free Trial) which saves a few bucks on shipping.  Also, Breadtopia offers what looks like competitive pricing on grains.

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Bob Marley

There's Weisenberger Mills if you're located not too far from that state as s&h rapidly mounts.

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David Esq.

Just a note.

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Bob Marley

...btw soft and hard wheat berries in the final product????

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subfuscpersona

If you're milling the wheat berries for bread flour to make bread or rolls, then hard wheat is preferrable, as it develops more gluten during kneading and bulk rise. Whole wheat flour from soft wheat does not give as good a rise and has a tendency to collapse during baking since the gluten structure is not strong enough.

If you want to mill whole wheat flour for biscuits, quick breads, pastry or cookies, then soft wheat is the better choice, precisely because it does not develop as much gluten and you want a lower gluten flour for these types of baked goods.

If you're cracking whole wheat to use as a soaker in a multigrain loaf, I'd go with soft wheat, as it will absorb the soaker water better and possibly a little quicker (especially if you use boiling water for your soaker). 

I also prefer using soft wheat for flour when making chapaptis, but here you can do with some experimentation to see what works best for you.

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charbono

are Honeyville Food and Heartland Mill.

 

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David Esq.

Honeyville Food offers a good price on a 50 pound bag of organic hard red winter wheat.  I think it came to $1.09  a pound (plus shipping) vs. 1.24 a pound at amazon (for a 25 pound bag, shipping included).

I don't think I would want that much flour delivered at once though.  

 

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Gingi

I appreciate the leads. However, excluding one, I could not find a site with a variety of grain to buy :(

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pmiker

I have bought from several but the lowest prices, including shipping were with Azure Standard (http://www.azurestandard.com) and BPSF (http://www.internet-grocer.net).  Lately though, the price of wheat is kind of high.

 

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David Esq.

Azurestandard appears to have great pricing, if you don't have to pay for shipping.  Shipping a 5 pound bag of wheat berries to the east coast quadruples the price.  And if you order a 50lb bag, you have to call customer service to find out what it costs to ship.

I did not see wheat berries being sold at the internet-grocer -- maybe they just sell the flour?

So far, Amazon seems to give the best overall pricing if you require product to be shipped, and it is cheaper than picking up wheat berries at whole foods, at least here in NY.

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BobBoule

for everything that they have in stock.

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pmiker

http://www.internet-grocer.net/search.asp?keyword=red+wheat&search.x=9&search.y=11

This link is for red wheat.  They have a search box and you can type in what you're looking for.

Azure Standard charged about 8%, give or take a bit, for the shipping.  They have routes across the country and you can sign up and find the closest to you.  I had two drops within 25 miles of my place to choose from.  When the truck arrives, everyone helps unload it.  It goes real quick and the low shipping was a blessing.

 

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David Esq.

Not sure how my search came up dry earlier. The price of shipping at internet grocer doubles the bill and makes it too costly. 

Drop point shipping at 8% would be awesome but I don't have a schedule flexible enough. Maybe if I worked at home or has no children. :)

Do people buy organic and if so would you buy their natural chemical free stuff? In some ways that seems like it would be better since organic does not mean pesticide free. But who checks the product if it is not certified? (I do not know who checks the organic stuff but assume something  us done to verify?)

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David Esq.

40 pound bucket with gamma lid for $49.99 (shipping included).  While supplies last through June 1.

Honeyville's Organic Hard Red Wheat comes from specially selected varieties of winter wheat known for its storage and baking qualities. Low in moisture, high in protein, Honeyville guarantees our Hard Red Wheat to be below 10% in moisture and higher than 12% protein. Honeyville's special triple cleaning process produces the highest quality Hard Red Wheat available to consumers for many uses. It's 100% natural and certified organic, making this wheat healthy, tasty and fresh. Honeyville Organic Hard Red Wheat is an ideal product for long term food storage.

That comes to 1.25 a pound, which is a very good price, considering it ships with the gamma seal lid.

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barryvabeach

You might want to check out local health food stores - we have an organic food store that lets you special order 25 and 50 bags of berries.  I have also heard you can go through the Church of the Later Day Saints Coop - but haven't tried it myself. 

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David Esq.

Red Hill General Store has a decent price and decent shipping rate for the Wheat Montana Organic Prairie Gold Hard Spring Wheat Berries.

I ordered the 50 pound sack delivered to New York for just under $70. Came to $1.40 a pound. It is a lot of wheat and I probably won't open it until I've freed up my 40 pound bucket.  Then again, maybe it is time to buy a second bucket.