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Crumb for my Classic Sourdough Baked in a La Cloche

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CAphyl's picture

Crumb for my Classic Sourdough Baked in a La Cloche

I am still trying to figure out how to post multiple photos on my blog, so I am posting this one after my initial blog on this bread.  I think it came out OK, but I would have liked a little more height.  Thanks again for your comments and suggestions.  I use this recipe below for the classic sourdough, which I love.


golgi70's picture

I took a look at the formula and it's hard to offer any advice as it is not a formula but more of some guidelines to make your loaf.  i suggest using a formula (even this one) based on weights/measures.  If you use this one just record the weights as you go and then you'll have a "formula" in which you can make adjustments.  Then we can look at the formula with baker's percentages and see what is really going on. 

Again it looks great

Happy Holiday


golgi70's picture

Well I looked again.  I found the "formula" at the bottom.  

240 g  Ripe Starter (100% hydration???)

360 g  H20

495 g  Bread Flour

2 tsp   Sea Salt


If in fact the starter is 100% hydration (meaning equal parts flour and water by weight) then the dough has 16% prefermented flour which is normal.  Overall hydration is 67% which is again normal/average.  I'd do the salt by weight myself but I think a tsp is roughly 8 g??? so 16 g is just a smidge over 2% which is also normal.  

As for the instructions:

I would add an autolyse phase to help get the height and crumb you desire. 

So when the starter is just about ready.  In your bowl mix just the flour and water to the final dough until all the flour is hydrated but you have a rough shaggy dough.  Let this rest covered for 30 minutes to an hour.  

Now add the starter and salt and mix through until well combined.  Knead dough as you would to its developed state. 

So now you leave the dough to rest overnight.  I myself would do this in the fridge and not at room temp.  None the less you could after the first and second hour give your dough a good stretch and fold.  This will help strengthen your dough again adding to volume.  

Next Day:

When you turn out on a lightly flour surface you should do as she does when she "deviates" from the recipe and shape into a tight ball and cover for 20 minutes (this is your pre shape)

Now after the rest instead of placing into your floured bowl shape it into a boule (many videos on youtube) then place into the bowl and let proof.  

I think with the added autolyse, a stretch and fold (or two), plus the preshape + final shape you will be happy with the loaf profile.  

sorry so long long winded but I hope this is helpful


CAphyl's picture

Josh:  Excellent suggestions.  I will try these steps next time I make the dough.  I think this will help for sure.  Happy Thanksgiving and baking!

dabrownman's picture

to go with the fine crust.  The La Cloche is one thing I haven't yet seen at Goodwill maybe some day....

Happy Thanksgiving

CAphyl's picture

Thanks, Dabrownman.  The crust always comes out so well with the La Cloche.  You are such an expert baker, you don't need it!  I love your posts.

 I am trying something different for Thanksgiving.  I cut up days old whole wheat and Classic sourdough that I made, and I am making the stuffing with it.  I just took the cut up pieces out of the oven. I will post a photo if I can.  I wonder if anyone ever posted sourdough stuffing?

I am a huge Packers' fan, so it's a busy day with cooking, baking and football.  Happy Thanksgiving!  Phyllis