'00' refers basically to a very finely milled white flour. Typically milled from soft wheat, it is used in anything from pasta to pizza to panettone.
Could you tell us a little more about the particular 00 flour you have there? All 00 flours are not equal - some have more protein (some have very little) and hence some are more suitable for bread and pizza than others.
If you're using 'Caputo', perhaps the most well known brand of 00 flour (at least in pizza circles) , then the 'caputo rosso' ('caputo pizzaiolo'?) or available in larger bags (presumably for commercial/professional s): 'caputo pizzeria' (which confusingly comes in a blue bag) flours are best for making bread and pizza. Especially if you are using an extended ferment.
Hello....I've been making pizza with Caputo "00" flour for a couple of months now. Here is my formula.
500 gr. of flour
1 tsp. instant yeast
2 tsp. salt
whisk these dry ingredients together to get them evenly incorporated
add
375 gr. water....weigh this, not measured
1 Tablespoon of olive oil.
This is about %75 hydration.
I mix this until everything is incorporated evenly.
Then I slam, stretch, and fold 10 times.
Rest for 20 minutes....stretch and fold
Rest, stretch and fold two more times at 20 minute intervals.
Refrigerate over night....divide into three 10 oz. dough pieces....refrigerate until ready for one or two days.....take out dough ball two hours before ready to use......
I have used type 00 flour for making pizza. I believe this flour has very low protein than bread flour, and the ash content may be "00" hence the reason why it is called type 00. From my visual and tactile feel, this flour comes together very easily and quickly when it is mixed with water, salt, and yeast. When I say quickly, I mean it takes about 2 minutes to form into a dough by hand. Whereas with bread flour (when using the same amount of water, salt, and yeast), it may take about 5 or 6 minutes to form into a dough by hand. In terms of taste and texture, the pizza made with type 00 flour can have a light crust with a slightly chewy interior. The crust is not tough to bite off. In comparison with a pizza made from bread flour, the crust can be thick and tough with a chewy interior. Others might have a different characteristic with their pizza made from either type 00 flour and bread flour, but this is what I have encountered so far.
00 refers to the milling - it is not directly related to ash content.
The protein content varies depending on the type and brand of 00 flour. Caputo, for example, has a whole range of 00 flours ranging from about 10% protein (maybe less?) to 12+ (this comes from different blends of wheat) There are also other classifications of italian flour including '0' (coarser) and 000 (equivalent to pastry or cake flour).
on the subject of italian flour, fwiw: grano tenero refers to wheat flour and grano duro refers to durum. 'manitoba' refers to flour milled from canadian hard wheat.
OK, so "rainwater" is using Caputa "00" flour. Looks like it's working great. How do we know if he's using 10% 00 or 12% 00? I've never used Italian specialty flour. Does the packaging include that information? In english?
There seems to be some confusion on that forum as to where to purchase the Caputo flour. I'm not enrolled. If you are, perhaps you could link them to this:
Note: For some strange reason, the link above doesn't allow you to access the page by clicking on the link information string. You'll have to cut and paste the link information into the URL box to make the connection.
Rainwater, me, is using the "Antimo Caputo" bag of "00" flour....it's a red bag. It's the flour that they suggest to use for pizza and bread on their (Caputo's) web site.....I don't know anything about protein levels or anything like this. Although I like the pizza crust with this flour very much.....very good flavor and scent...I actually prefer the pizza crust that I make with the King Arthur unbleached bread flour.....The King Arthur performs better after two days in the refrigerator than the Italian flour. I like the texture and crumb with the King Arthur better....although....the Italian flour makes better bread!
00 flour
'00' refers basically to a very finely milled white flour. Typically milled from soft wheat, it is used in anything from pasta to pizza to panettone.
Could you tell us a little more about the particular 00 flour you have there? All 00 flours are not equal - some have more protein (some have very little) and hence some are more suitable for bread and pizza than others.
If you're using 'Caputo', perhaps the most well known brand of 00 flour (at least in pizza circles) , then the 'caputo rosso' ('caputo pizzaiolo'?) or available in larger bags (presumably for commercial/professional s): 'caputo pizzeria' (which confusingly comes in a blue bag) flours are best for making bread and pizza. Especially if you are using an extended ferment.
Hope that helps.
FP
00 flour...
Hello....I've been making pizza with Caputo "00" flour for a couple of months now. Here is my formula.
500 gr. of flour
1 tsp. instant yeast
2 tsp. salt
whisk these dry ingredients together to get them evenly incorporated
add
375 gr. water....weigh this, not measured
1 Tablespoon of olive oil.
This is about %75 hydration.
I mix this until everything is incorporated evenly.
Then I slam, stretch, and fold 10 times.
Rest for 20 minutes....stretch and fold
Rest, stretch and fold two more times at 20 minute intervals.
Refrigerate over night....divide into three 10 oz. dough pieces....refrigerate until ready for one or two days.....take out dough ball two hours before ready to use......
00 flour
I have used type 00 flour for making pizza. I believe this flour has very low protein than bread flour, and the ash content may be "00" hence the reason why it is called type 00. From my visual and tactile feel, this flour comes together very easily and quickly when it is mixed with water, salt, and yeast. When I say quickly, I mean it takes about 2 minutes to form into a dough by hand. Whereas with bread flour (when using the same amount of water, salt, and yeast), it may take about 5 or 6 minutes to form into a dough by hand. In terms of taste and texture, the pizza made with type 00 flour can have a light crust with a slightly chewy interior. The crust is not tough to bite off. In comparison with a pizza made from bread flour, the crust can be thick and tough with a chewy interior. Others might have a different characteristic with their pizza made from either type 00 flour and bread flour, but this is what I have encountered so far.
00 refers to the milling - it
00 refers to the milling - it is not directly related to ash content.
The protein content varies depending on the type and brand of 00 flour. Caputo, for example, has a whole range of 00 flours ranging from about 10% protein (maybe less?) to 12+ (this comes from different blends of wheat) There are also other classifications of italian flour including '0' (coarser) and 000 (equivalent to pastry or cake flour).
on the subject of italian flour, fwiw: grano tenero refers to wheat flour and grano duro refers to durum. 'manitoba' refers to flour milled from canadian hard wheat.
Which is Which
OK, so "rainwater" is using Caputa "00" flour. Looks like it's working great. How do we know if he's using 10% 00 or 12% 00? I've never used Italian specialty flour. Does the packaging include that information? In english?
Caputo specs.
http://www.pizzamaking.com/forum/index.php?topic=2594.0
You can glean some info from that page re: Caputo specifications - but it's still a bit of a mystery as to exact protein levels etc.
FP
Caputo Link
There seems to be some confusion on that forum as to where to purchase the Caputo flour. I'm not enrolled. If you are, perhaps you could link them to this:
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_gw?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=Caputo+flour&x=0&y=0
or this:
http://www.fornobravo.com/store/search.php?mode=search&simple_search=Y&posted_data[by_title]=Y&posted_data[by_shortdescr]=N&posted_data[by_fulldescr]=N&posted_data[by_sku]=N&posted_data[including]=all&substring=Caputo+Flour+5-Pack
Note: For some strange reason, the link above doesn't allow you to access the page by clicking on the link information string. You'll have to cut and paste the link information into the URL box to make the connection.
Caputo
I think in the US it might be cheaper (if you can call it that!) to order from Forno Bravo.
$55 for a bag of Caputo Pizzeria compared to the amazon price of $75.90 for example.
Cheers,
FP
flour
Rainwater, me, is using the "Antimo Caputo" bag of "00" flour....it's a red bag. It's the flour that they suggest to use for pizza and bread on their (Caputo's) web site.....I don't know anything about protein levels or anything like this. Although I like the pizza crust with this flour very much.....very good flavor and scent...I actually prefer the pizza crust that I make with the King Arthur unbleached bread flour.....The King Arthur performs better after two days in the refrigerator than the Italian flour. I like the texture and crumb with the King Arthur better....although....the Italian flour makes better bread!
00 Flour
Pennsylvania Macaroni Company in Pittsburgh sells a 55# bag of Caputo 00 for $38.95, plus shipping.
http://www.pennmac.com/items/3201/