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Multigrain Bread Machine Experiment 7


Whole wheat cycle 3 lbs dark crust  + 45 min baking cycle (207 *F baking alarm)
For oven baking:  the equivalent is baking at 350*F for approximately 1 hour 45 minutes.

100g ground flax seeds   2/3 cup
50g chia seeds                 1/4 cup
40g collagen                   1/4 cup

----  190g "GF soaker" flours total, about 1 1/3 cup
------------% soaker flour: 22%  (of total flour)

115g coconut flour            1 + 1/3 cups
 250g Namaste flour         2 cups
150g almond flour            1 + 1/2 cups
150g ground buckwheat   1 + 3/4 cups

---- 665g  total dry flours, about 6 2/3 cups
----------  855g  total all flours

15g salt
14g 2 packets Instant Yeast, mixed into dry flours
70g sugar

---- these don't count toward liquid or flour

150g water 2/3 cup  , heated in microwave 30 sec, to mix with sugar
690g water, 3 cups, to mix with "GF soaker" flours
200g eggs 4 large
70g oil 1/4 cup
20g vinegar 2-3 tsp

---- 1130g all liquids

Hydration:  132%  !!!  (I can hear baking pans falling to the ground all over the Midwest.)
              I pushed the hydration all the way to 169% which is close to the hydration of a "levain" but the result is longer and longer baking time without any visible benefit. It doesn't ruin the bread but there's not much point in it either. 


Grind flours that need it (flax, buckwheat)

Measure and combine flours, with salt and yeast.

Measure and combine soaker ingredients.  Add 690g warmed water (about 110*F) and mix very well. You may need to use a food processor if it clumps up.  Beat some air into it.

Beat eggs, oil and vinegar together.

Warm  the water for 30 sec in microwave. This is to hot for yeast, but it will cool when it's mixed with the other ingredients. For instance, in this recipe, you don't need to warm the eggs. When the liquids mix together, they will be just lukewarm.

Assemble the paddles in the bread machine pan.  To avoid spills, fill the pan with all ingredients except 1/2 of the flour mixture while it's out of the machine.

Start the cycle and add the rest of the flour in batches over the next 5 minutes.  When needed, help the machine to mix.  Once the bread is mixed, this recipe doesn't have many other problems, except baking time may need to be extended.

Use a thermometer with an alarm for best results, it may take a long time to get the bread up to 205*F or higher.

 

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Ideas and suggestions welcome :)

 

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During baking there was a nice oven rise but it shrinks by the end of the baking time.  I'm guessing it's because of water loss. 

This bread recipe is gluten free and I've read before that the shrinking of bread after baking happens a lot more in gluten free bread making.  I've never seen anyone explain why this is, though.  It just is.

If this was a wheat bread and this happened, what would be the reason?  Too much yeast?  Too much water?  I'd like to do what I can to minimize it.  Maybe if I added bean flour?  I have some mung beans that I could sprout, mash and add to a bread recipe.

Here's the size of the bread after complete cooling, and the crumb structure (which is really nice for a GF bread).  The recipe is here:  https://www.nixgluten.com/2019/11/substantial-sandwich-bread-recipe-part-5.html

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There are many reasons why I want to make a bread machine work in my life.  I've baked bread the long way and I love to do that. But my spine no longer wants me to stand up straight, and I get winded just walking the length of my house.  Kneading is fun and I love it, but it hurts now.  Bending over is a roulette of dizzy spells.  So having something on my counter that requires no reaching for parchment paper and pans, no preheating of oven and bending over to load/unload it, no kneading, etc... that's helpful right now.  When/If I recover, I'll go back to something more active.

There's another reason. People with Celiac disease already have enough issues with food.  Why make them go through the ritual of baking the long way when a machine could actually fulfill the duty with only a small loss of quality?  Gluten free bread is around $8 a loaf right now, near me.  It can be as much as $11 if it's an "artisan" loaf.  I've paid $15 for a local baker's truly wonderful loaf of gluten free bread.  I don't begrudge anyone the profits, but I can't do that forever. Hardly anyone can. 

And there's another reason still.  As people get older, the chances of latent Celiac genes becoming active increases.  In the US, 1 in 133 people has Celiac already active. But that says nothing about how many people have the genetics.  And because it's one of those things that activates, the elderly are the largest group of people with Celiac.  The elderly have the greatest need for gluten free, yet they can least afford it.  And the difference between baking bread the long way and using a bread machine could make the difference for someone. 

And another reason:  Not everyone tolerates xanthan gum.  But if you eat gluten free, it's hard to avoid it.  Only by baking for yourself can you fully avoid it.

So having a decent bread machine is important to a certain group of people.  That's why I'm dedicated to finding a way to get along with a bread machine, even though it does things like you see in the image above.  I literally couldn't find any advice for that sort of problem anywhere.  I puzzled it out by watching youtube videos until I saw someone do what I did and realized why that crater had formed.  But it should never have formed at all. 

I think people deserve better equipment than this.  I ended up kneading that dough by hand and that's the whole purpose of having a bread machine in the first place.  I don't expect artisan results, but I do expect that I can at least avoid the kneading part if I buy an appliance designed to do that. And maybe it's a pipe dream, but I also expect a decent manual that tells you the timings of  the kneading and rise portions of each cycle, so you can plan what you want to use.

The full blog entry is here: https://www.nixgluten.com/2019/11/the-great-gluten-free-bread-machine.html

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I've been experimenting with a new bread machine and gluten free.  And it hasn't turned out too badly so far.  There's a series I'm going to keep up until I feel like using the bread machine has become "routine" at https://www.nixgluten.com/2019/10/the-great-gluten-free-bread-machine.html There's also a part 2 so far.  Here are some pics from the experiment.

Cinnamon Raisin bread:

My frist experiment cinnamon raisin bread

 

Shrinkage over 90 min after baking

After baking shrinkage over 90 min

I'm breaking all the rules of using a bread machine and exposing both success and failure.  Comments are welcome here or there.

My goal is to stop paying thru the nose for gluten free bread, which I need.

Update

Recipe

Gluten Free Every Day Bread Machine Experiment 2

Ingredients:

Uh, I meant Flax :)


1 cup Namaste flour, gluten free, organic (this is the starchy flour)
1 cup Bob's Red Mill Almond Flour  (Not Organic, I can't afford that, heh)
1/2 cup  BRM buckwheat  groats, ground in a coffee grinder  until it's flour

1/2 cup flaxseed, divided in two parts and ground
2 Tbsp chia seed
2 Tbsp psyllium seed powder

1 and 1/2 cup water and 2 tsp salt in a large bowl
3 eggs

1/2 cup water (warm)
3 heaping tsp sugr
2 1/4 tsp yeast

Steps:

Yeast


Combine warm water, yeast and sugar and stir.  Allow to become slightly frothy.  This time I didn't let it form a thick "head" because I just wanted it awake.

Prepare the "gluten free sponge" by combining half of the flax seed, the chia seed and psyllium powder with the 1 and 1/2 cups of water and salt.  Stir vigorously until some bubbles are incorporated. Beat 3 eggs into it.

Measure the flours and have ready.

Place paddle in bread machine.

Add the warm water/yeast mixture.

"Gluten Free Sponge"

Add the conditioners/gels mixture.

Add the flour mixture.

Set machine on Dough Cycle and watch at first to be sure it combines properly.  Help the machine mix if needed.

If remembered, remove the paddle after the second mixing, and before the second rise gets going.

If the dough has risen to the top edge of the pan by the end of the Dough cycle, you may proceed to Baking the dough with the "Bake" cycle.

Allow the bread to stand for at least 1 hour, best is 3 hours.  Then slice and enjoy!

I wrap the bread in cloth for one day, then store what's left in Tupperware in the fridge. 

 

Flavor:  Superb, it smelled even better several hours later.  Only sourdough would be a better flavor than this.  And buckwheat gives such a nice warm flavor.

 

Uses:  Works equally well with jam, or sausage and mustard. 



Believe it or not, there's still room for improvement in this loaf. It fell because it formed a popover type of top. That's cute in a pastry but not so cute in bread.

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