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Abel's SuperLevain

alfanso's picture
alfanso

Abel's SuperLevain

Abel Sierra posted another in his series of fascinating outside-of-the-box things that one can do with just Flour Water and Salt two weeks ago.  And I am indeed fascinated at the breadth of what one can do creatively with just these three ingredients.   And that also meant another that I would warehouse until the time came.  Which was now!

The character of the baked bread is really wonderful.  It has a thin and crisp snap to the crust while the crumb is tender and sweet.  A really nice bread in every measure.

This is a 100% hydration liquid levain, 75% overall hydration mix that uses a full 50% of the flour in the levain pre-ferment.  Which is somewhat off the charts considering the "normal" range is in the 5%-20% vicinity.  But that is what caught my eye.  Although this is an all white flour affair, a very small number of grams of WW and rye snuck in due to my base starter having these two rogue elements.

The dough is incredibly slack and stayed that way throughout the entire process.  Because of this I had a fair amount of trouble wrangling the dough to form baguettes, with them becoming somewhat inconsistent and misshapen, but managed to get a decent enough shape and subsequent bake.  The batard was a cinch to shape.  

Where I differed from Abel in the process was to shorten the bulk rise with two S&Fs to his one, and to retard until the next day rather than execute the entire process in a single calendar day as Abel stated he did.

My follow-up attempt will be to change two things and see whether that will yield some improvements in the shaping as well as to provide a more robust flavor - without sacrificing any of the clean AP taste.  The plan is to do an 85% AP / 15% Rye flour mix with all of the rye incorporated into the levain.  As for shaping, instead of my standard pre-shape logs, the next time will have me pre-shape as small boules, and I think that this will facilitate with the rolling of the baguettes.

Thanks Abel.

 

500g x 1 batard

350g x 2 baguettes/long batards

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dabrownman's picture
dabrownman

 different reasons.  First we have and use Mexican flour all the time.  2nd it is winter here and if we are going to do  50% levain bread it will have to be now in the winter even though it will be in the 80's all next week:-(  We will make it all in one day though because there is no way this going to be retarded and make it for 12 hours and I'm not getting up in 8:-)

These look great, great shaping, and the crumb has to be really open at 75% hydration using AP - Abel's sure were! 

Well done and happy baking DB - the other DB - Don Baggs

alfanso's picture
alfanso

that my kitchen is always ~78-80, so there shouldn't be much difference in timings with your attempt.  I find that once in retard, it really doesn't matter what the clock says WRT how many hours it stays there.  As long as it is at least 10 hours and up to ~18 or so, although a few folks recently posted that they leave the dough retarded for days at a time.  Therefore, sleep in and bake it when Lucy is ready to fire up Ol' Betsy.

I'm looking forward to the next time, soon, where the dough will be a little more "friendly" for baguette shaping and rolling.  I took note that Mr. Hamelman will shape a baguette from either a small round or a log, so I'm all in for that experience with this dough.  And as he states "you don't want to punish the bread"!

thanks, alan

Flour.ish.en's picture
Flour.ish.en

with this super levain idea. Thanks for posting the results of your bake. Keep baking and reporting back.

alfanso's picture
alfanso

After this next bake, with the aforementioned two changes, I'll again post the "alfanso-style" version.  That is, unless it's trash bin worthy and then not worth discussing further ;-) !

thanks, alan

PalwithnoovenP's picture
PalwithnoovenP

How was the tang? I think this method will really boost it. I want a tangier bread but I'm focusing on something different now.

alfanso's picture
alfanso

but then again I never go for, nor get, a sour levain flavor from my bread.  My range of tang goes from almost non-existent to quite mild and topping out just north of mild.  Which is just fine with me.  I don't use the levain, nor want to, for anything other than being the leavening agent, stalling staling (wow, two cute words when typed together!!!), and boosting overall flavor.

Although there was decent oven spring from all three, I've only cut into the one remaining baguette and the openness of the crumb was somewhat minimal.  Perhaps from the over-handling of the very unruly dough.  Assume that the batard will exhibit greater openness.

alan