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Park Tae Young: The Yeast Water Chronicles

PalwithnoovenP's picture
PalwithnoovenP

Park Tae Young: The Yeast Water Chronicles

Meet Park Tae Young, my persimmon yeast water!

After sourdough, I promised myself I will try yeast water. Although it took many months, here she is finally. Ready to raise breads with a different character. I documented another journey of my baking life so I hope you enjoy.

Many TFLers here have used yeast water and posted their beautiful breads made with it. It's really an old thing here and when I read it before I really wanted to try it. I waited so many years before giving it a try, I'm lucky because many have formalized the yeast water method by that time.

Uncle Dab has great tutorial about yeast water here YW Primer. Even though I followed his steps, I always fail just like my SD journey, in fact its 3 times already that I failed. All those attempts, I used raisins because I read it is one of the most reliable fruits for yeast water but I forgot that the only ones available here are oiled raisins so maybe that's what was hindering my success. Determined to succeed, this time I took a different route.

This yeast water is inspired by and named after my Korean friend Park Tae Young who is also fond of dried persimmons. Actually we became friends because of food, 90% of the time we talk about food; Korean or not, sweet or savory. It is how we discovered that we both like dried persimmons and became closer than ever. We often share this snack, even through photos as she is in Korea now.



Dried persimmons have a unique taste; like honeyed apples but different. They're fragrant and sweet but are very chewy and hard. The outside bloom looks like molds but I read they're just sugars from the pulp that migrated to the surface while drying into a delicate white bloom. Maybe there's yeast in there too. Any fruit or dried fruit can be used for YW but skin on and unwashed are the best, so I decided to use my favorite dried fruit for this. We got this beautiful dried persimmons from Chinatown a couple of months ago, They're a little expensive and we seldom have them because it's only 3 times a year at most that we go to Chinatown (because of the distance and heavy traffic) so they must be put to good use.



Average temperature from start to finish is 82 F.

I just removed the seed in the middle and cut the persimmons into little pieces and fill the jar with water three quarters full. No measuring or whatsoever. I didn't boil (to make sure that only the yeast in the fruits survives) my water like before. I just used it straight from the faucet. Before I was overly careful but now, anything goes because I feel that this is a success. I shook the jar and opened the lid twice on the first day.



Yes, miracles do happen! It is when I don't show any obsessive compulsive behavior that I succeed! The next day, it was already bubbling and active. There was a "psssh" sound when I opened the tight lid. Before it was already 7 days and yet there is no activity! Because it was already active, I didn't put honey anymore as prescribed by uncle Dab for the third day but I continued shaking and opening the lid for the next couple of days.



Here is the top view before shaking on the second day.



I kept the jar submerged halfway in water to keep ants at bay. I think ants are of the reasons too for my failures because they introduce bacteria and other microorganisms in the yeast water I'm trying to culture. Well I cannot blame them because who can resist the sweet fragrant liquid that flows down the sides of the jar when it is shaken.



Here is she is on the third day. Nothing much has changed, she is still bubbly and active but the persimmon pieces look much softer and the aroma of honeyed apples became stronger.







I shook and opened the jar for the next 4 days and here is she is by the 7th day. The "psssh" and fizzing sounds are much louder and the aroma is not unlike that of fresh persimmons. 



The top looks like a thick smoothie but settles and becomes homogeneous after shaking.



Here is close-up shot of the bubbles on the side indicating that she is very active.



Since we seldom buy dried persimmons and my yeast water could be all used up before we buy the next pack to refresh her, every yeast water that I make from dried persimmons; I will call Park Tae Young (朴泰映). Her English name is Claire Park so I guess I could fondly call my yeast water Claire sometimes. :-)

A letter that my friend wrote me, I wish I could read Hangul!



Park Tae Young and Zhou Clementine together. My bread workforce and friends in the kitchen!




Happy Yeast Water Baking!

Comments

Danni3ll3's picture
Danni3ll3

I am looking forward to the bread you are going to make with this!

PalwithnoovenP's picture
PalwithnoovenP

Comment allez-vous? Super busy? You're posting less. I'm planning to make a fruit bread with my YW. Looking forward to your next post too.

Danni3ll3's picture
Danni3ll3

I got involved into pottery lately and I have been doing a lot of that so less time to read and post. I got talked into selling some pieces at a sale that our group is having so I needed to make a few things for it. I am not very good at it so it is going to be interesting. I took lessons for the first time this summer so I am still very much a newbie at it. 

Ru007's picture
Ru007

I'm super excited for you Pal! 

To be honest, i had to google what a persimmon is! LOL! But now i've learned about a different fruit that i've never heard of. 

Can't wait to see what you bread you make with Park Tae. 

Happy baking :)

PalwithnoovenP's picture
PalwithnoovenP

It's persimmons for you and figs for me. :-) Definitely a fruit bread for her first loaf!

Happy baking!

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joc1954

I am asking this because right now we are going to pick the fruits from the persimmon tree in our garden. This year there are not so many. We don't dry them although we probably could using dehydrator. So I was wondering what if I would use them to make yeast water. During this year summer I made yeast water from plums, pears, sage, raisins, fresh grapes and also basil. The latter was not according to my taste so I threw it away, but the rest are just great for baking. I feed them now with honey and some raisins, but they still keep their original flavor.

Thanks for posting this and happy baking!

Joze

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PalwithnoovenP

Persimmons do not grow in our country so I seldom have them fresh. I've only eaten fresh ones when my aunt brought some from Japan 16 years ago and a couple of years ago when there is an import in the local market.

I think fresh persimmons will work because I believe any fruit will work and from what I know it is not that different to plums or apricots or apples. What persimmon variety do you have? Your herb yeast waters are interesting.

Thank you Joze!

joc1954's picture
joc1954

but I am not sure as we locally call them differently. One of the trees should be  Vanilla type and has just few fruits on because it is still only about 3 years old.

I will definitely try using some and see what kind of taste fresh persimmon YW will have. Persimmons are very common fruit tree at the coast of Adriatic Sea, but they grow also in the inside of the country where I am living. We have even kind of a feast called "Persimmon days" at the sea shore when you can get a lot of them by a discounted price.

Here is a picture from a year ago when we had really abundance of them.

Happy baking Pal!

PalwithnoovenP's picture
PalwithnoovenP

Thanks for sharing your memory of the good harvest. While we don't have persimmons, we had an abundance of mangoes this year.

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joc1954

Today we had this year harvest and below is the picture of the result. Not so many as last year, but not so bad, much better than I have expected before.  So now I have true organic ingredients for my persimmon yeast water. Most of the fruits are still very unmature and will need some time to be ready for consumption. Luckily there are some which I can use right away.

Happy baking Pal!

Joze

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PalwithnoovenP

Here is a guide I found for drying persimmons without a dehydrator. It says persimmons dried with this method instead of a dehydrator has a texture like gummy bears!

Good luck with your persimmon yeast water Joze!

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dabrownman

attempt.  You should always have success with fruits you pick out of the yard or neighborhood I would think.  Anything store bought could be altered in a bad way.  Never heard or seen persimmon yeast water, nor have I seen dried ones before,  This should make some great bread for many years.  I bought a special huge Fuji apple to feed my YW after all of these months untended in the fridge.  Will have to make some bread with it this week.  

Well done and happy bread making the YW way Job.

 

PalwithnoovenP's picture
PalwithnoovenP

Your tutorial is great and motivating. I want to use home grown fruits but we only have a single fruits with edible skin that we have never eaten because bats eat them immediately the moment they are ripe. I'm excited for my persimmon YW friend.

Looking forward to your and Lucy's next bake. Happy YW baking!

Yippee's picture
Yippee

looking forward to seeing your bread made with Tae Young!

Yippee

PalwithnoovenP's picture
PalwithnoovenP

I'll post her first loaf as soon as I make it.

Filomatic's picture
Filomatic

Those look like Hoshigaki.  So good.

PalwithnoovenP's picture
PalwithnoovenP

Those are the Chinese shibing. I think they are of the Fuyu variety.

Isand66's picture
Isand66

Congrats on your YW!  It looks like it should provide some nice tasty bread as soon as you ready to bake.  Look forward to seeing your bake soon with your new friend :0.

Regards,
Ian

PalwithnoovenP's picture
PalwithnoovenP

I really can't wait to bake with her. How's your YW?

Isand66's picture
Isand66

Mine is pushing up the daisies :(.  It's easy enough to start a new one when I'm in the mood to use some YW.

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JDYangachi

보고싶을 거야 좋은 친구 = I will miss you good friend

우리 꼭 다시 만나자! = Let's meet again for sure! / We should definitely meet again!

그리고, 카카오톡 자주 하자 = And, let's [use] Kakao Talk often

PalwithnoovenP's picture
PalwithnoovenP

That's so sweet of her.