Rye adventures
Now that the season has slowed down and I am not baking for customers anymore, I thought I get myself some rye flour and start experimenting with rye breads. I lived in Estonia for over 10 years and fell in love with their 'leib' (rye bread). There are hundreds of variants available in almost every shop. I had no idea that I would miss that bread so much. But now on the other side of the world, I feel the need of recreating their beautiful rye breads.
I started on this site looking for a way to start. I found Mini's blogs very helpful and adopted a formula 1:3,5:4,16. I have no idea if she still thinks is a good formula but for me it worked.(thanks Mini for all the information your blog contains..) I used my starter and before I would make the dough I would feed it with rye flour. Once it was fully bubbling I would use it and incorporate it in my dough.I wasn't sure to start with 100% rye the first time but I thought; Why not... let's give it a go... The loaf turned out like this: I was happily surprised by the crumb. I used caraway seeds in the dough to flavor it. As one of my favorite Estonian loaves has a lovely taste, that I thought was caraway. After tasting the bread I had to admit it was nice but it missed a couple of flavors. In my opinion it wasn't tangy enough and some flavors I couldn't describe. So my next batch was gonna have a pre-ferment. And in the hope I would find a flavor I liked I added toasted sunflower seeds, a althus of the first batch, a bit of honey and molasses. that one turned out like this: Well, verdict is the sunflower seeds are a nice addition to the bread. Not sure about the honey it was a bit more tangy due to the pre-ferment. I could have it more tangy, but my wife liked it like this. Still am in search of the other flavors. So batch three, which we had this morning had a bit more molasses, no honey and I added some fennel and coriander seeds to my caraway. This made a lot more liquorice tasting...so next time less fennel seeds... picture of the loaf is the one on top.
Just wondering if wholegrain would create a tangier taste? Anyone more ideas about adding different spices to the rye? Thanks
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Nice looking bread! Missing some flavors? Have you tried Mini's bread spices?
thanks Syd, working on the spices...
Caraway, anise, fennel, coriander. I make half Caraway and the other half the other 3 in equal amounts. I like walnuts in there too - another Mini Add in. The most important flavor enhancer is to make a scald with red ryy malt, the altus, some rye chops and really get it dark. Your 2nd loaf didn't have a roof collapse so it turned out better. I also like the way Mini rounds and shaped the top of her rye bread to get it to really dom. Well done and
Happy baking
Hi and thanks, I have some more rye coming out of the oven.... Working on the spices. Your ingredients for the scald you mention are hard to find in the town I live. I might have to find them online. And with the anise, do you mean star-anise?
Lovely breads. Sounds like you are on the right track with your experiments and I imagine you will soon find the flavors you want.
To get a more sour flavor all you need to do is slow down the fermenting time which you can do by using less starter or by mixing everything up and then putting it into your refrigerator overnight so the acidic acid has more time to work and flavor your loaf.
Rye ferments quickly, as you well know, so I would mix the dough using less starter and cold water and then pan it followed by a long rest in the refrigerator. Once the fermenting starts with rye it is hard to stop and you could easily end up with an over fermented puddle of goo by morning.
Have fun with your experiments.
Janet
Hi and thanks, Did a new batch and refrigerated overnight in the fridge and then took it out. Went well, but haven't tasted it yet as they are next in line. We ate another loaf this morning. Will post how the taste was...
the crumb on those loaves is really really nice...well done
Thanks bikeprof, I am really enjoying it...
Very nice outcome for your experiments!
I'd second the others' recommendations for brot spice if you want to amp up the flavor.
Paul
Hi paul, thanks and working on the spices and longer fermentation. Will post the results soon...
Hi Paul, thanks and working on the spices and longer fermentation. Will post the results soon...