November 9, 2011 - 1:58pm
Bread Topping Video
Short video on Rye Beer topping
http://blip.tv/mspmagtv/making-and-baking-beer-bread-at-patisserie-46-5651499
Jim
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Short video on Rye Beer topping
http://blip.tv/mspmagtv/making-and-baking-beer-bread-at-patisserie-46-5651499
Jim
So, for steam in the home oven, the method is to "go to Home Depot, buy a brick, soak it in water overnight, and put it in the oven before setting it to 500." Sounds like a plan!
Hmmm, I don't think I have the guts to do this. (Note the guy that talked about it didn't actually do it; he seems to do everything in his commercial oven rather than in any home oven.) Any time you soak water into a sort-of porous substance and heat it (especially unevenly, as being close to the heating element in a home oven is likely to do), it's a little bit risky. Will there be time for all that steam to come back out of the brick gently, or will a pocket steam swell up somewhere inside the brick so fast the brick cracks (or even explodes)?
You can use the search box to find lots and lots of discussions here on TFL about the "best" way to kludge steam in a home oven. Many center on some kind of use of lava rocks; some center on use of rolled up towels; some involve some kind of cast iron vessel such as a frying pan; etc.
Interestingly, many reports are that some kind of closed vessel (a dutch oven, a Le Creuset, part of an old roasting pan, a cheap foil roasting pan from the market, Baparoma pans, search "magic bowl" here on TFL, etc.) works just as well. The general philosophy behind all of them is steam "just the bread" rather than "the whole oven". Besides working just as well and arguably being simpler, using some kind of closed vessel eliminates any small risk to electronic oven controls.
Especially with a vented gas oven it's difficult to keep the steam in. So covering the loaf is the way to go.
Jim
Chuck, I don't think the soaked brick in the oven is a good idea either. I'd be concerned about the brick exploding as well, even if it's fire brick, I just don't want to risk it.
Oh well, it was fun thinking about my moss covered bricks in the wet cold garden stinking up the kitchen with earthy smells. I think I'll stick to my covered pots, better for the longevity of the oven. Ignore my enthusiastic brick post.
Neat brick idea.
I bet that is an extruded brick with holes inside for more surface area. I got bricks! ...and rye gotta get me some beer! :) thanks Jim!
I'm always on the lookout for bread related info. With all the Micro breweries, and varieties of beer, ale, porter and stout (to name a few) it could take a while to try them all; but I'd like to try! :-)))
and the little diagram that popped up during the video. I suppose it was something about the flavour of the rye & beer going into the crumb while the loaf is cooling. I have noticed that but with burnt bread. I'm always quick to grate off any burnt coaled crust while hot because I've noticed the bitterness going into the crumb while the bread (or whatever) cools. (knock on wood)-(don't want to burn anything) Same with cookies.
What's the difference between a port and a dark beer? Or are they the same?
Dark beer would be about the same as saying Rye flour. They both come in different styles/colors, light to dark. With the darker ones having a fuller, richer, heavier taste. An Ale could be light or dark, yet a porter is almost black (dark chocolate) as is a stout. Yet a stout tastes a little thicker and more bitter. So with the many varieties of dark beer (worldwide) one could spent a long time trying them all. Or having them in, on or with bread. I think a darker beer would go well with a darker bread.
The glaze itself would give a great look to any rustic bread.
Thanks for the vid.