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2nd attempt at a Pain Rustique

joeg214's picture

2nd attempt at a Pain Rustique

I'm new to this and have only done around 7 breads so far (each one progressively better than the last for the most part)  However, since my first attempt at a pain rustique didn't fair well, I decided to give it another shot today.  I mixed my poolish last night (100% hydration) but ended up having to t'fer it to a larger bowl very early this morning (put it in one that was way too small for some reason).  I have to say, the wonderful fragrance that leaps from the bowl when you first remove the plastic wrap from this stuff is just incredible!  Here's what it looked like after 13 hours:

Here's the formula that I calculated based on Hamelman's pain rustique.  I simply typed in my figures into a  "design worksheet" pdf along with my notes.  I guess I got it right considering the end result :)

I proofed 900g of dough in a 8" X 10" X 3" homemade banneton (cost me all of $2).  After 20 min I inverted it onto a peel.   I had trouble scoring (as usual).  The dough, while manageable after the stretch and folds, was still pretty sticky so the knife tugged on the surface of the dough.  Maybe this will be easier after I get my lame this week.  After my pitiful scoring, the dough somewhat deflated...


However, after just  10 minutes (at 465F on a stone), it seemed to perk up a bit.  I did pour a cup of hot water into a pan on the bottom of the oven for steam as well as sprayed the top of the loaf and the oven walls (twice).

I continued baking while keeping an eye on the color... at 40 minutes, I decided to take it out.  The internal temperature was 205.  Overall, this one looked the best to me.  No "singing" was heard but there was a lot of nice crackling going on.   (The oval shape somehow got a little distorted getting it from the proofing basket to the peel)

The crumb came out better than any of my other breads.  It smells and tastes great but I'm wondering just what the "bite" of the crumb should be like?  This has some resiliance to it; chewy but not tough and it does dissolve in the mouth nicely.  Is it that I'm tasting good bread for the first time or did I screw this up and simply produce bad bread?  :) )


Here's a cross-section of an end piece.  The larger air pocket has a bit of a sheen to it.  I've read somewhere this is a good sign?

 One would think that making bread would be relatively easy but I'm learning that's not necessarily the case :) Well, that's about it :)  Thanks in advance for any advice or comments.

Po Jo 

thomaschacon75's picture

...for Pain Rustique, at least. 

I think those look rather fantastic. Good job!

Hamelman says 20-25 for the final proof, but I give it 30-40 minutes. Your crumb suggests the loaf might have been a little underproofed, so maybe a bit longer next time (alas, far be it from me to correct Hamelman!).

I heat the oven to 550 F, do the hot water/steaming, and then turn it down to 465 temp. Opening a 550 F oven for bread insertion and steaming will reduce the temp. to 465 F easily, so if you're at 465 F to begin with, the oven temp. (by the time you insert the bread and steam) will drop to 300 F or lower. It's amazing how fast you can lose temp. in a home oven. 

Don't worry about the scoring. It'll come to you with practice. I use a razor blade and hesitate not at all. I slash the loaves with vigor and immediately put them in the oven.

(Oh, and careful about inhaling a poolish or starter that's been fermenting overnight. Some of them release very alcoholic vapors, like rye starters. If you inhale, they'll get you nice and drunk, or at least burn your nose from their strength.)

Your Pains Rustiques look better than mine, and I'm supposed to know what I'm doing. 

joeg214's picture

This was the first time I kept the oven at the same temp throughout the bake.  Other "receipes" had me lower the temp from say, 450F to 375F after 30 minutes; then go another 15-30.  Starting even higher makes perfect sense!  I'll give that a shot next time.

Thanks for the encouragement!

PeterS's picture

Just noticed the OP is from almost a year ago. My comments are just a little belated--so, I deleted them...

dabrownman's picture

non rustic loaves become rustic either because I so poorly score them or we just don't score them for fear of total loss if scored.  I don't know who invented the Rustique tag but I would kiss them.  Yours look very nice indeed and could not nearly be classified as 'rustique' on my personal slash challenged scale of Cyclops meets The Hulk.  I too think a lame would help me but am afraid to get one for fear it is not a razor problem :-)

Very nice baking.