Sourdough
Hi Folks,
A few days ago I decided to make a white sourdough , the aim being to get as close to a SanFrancisco type flavour as possible. I based the recipe mainly around Hamelman's Vermont Sourdough however with a few changes such as omitting the whole rye flour and changing some percentages. The starter that I have is a little over 3 months old with a good flavor but a little mellower than I would like it at this time. Instead of the 20% mature sour that Hamelman's recipe called for I increased it to 40%. It turned out a decent loaf , although because I was pressed for time I had to push the final proof and slash it a little deeper than I normally would. I think I could have left it at least another 15-20 minutes before the slash and bake . Next mix I'll give myself enough time for a long, slow rise . The flavor is good, with a nice tang to it. Not as sour as SF Sour but headed in the right direction. I don't think I'd want to increase the percentage of mature sour as it probably wouldn't make that much of a flavor difference and could have some adverse effects on the overall formula . I'll work on increasing the acetic acid levels in my starter over the next week or two of feeds .....so if anyone has some experience doing this and wouldn't mind sharing it, it would be greatly appreciated. The main reason I made this loaf was to use in making hot Italian pannini sandwiches, which it does brilliantly!
The recipe below is based on my notes during mixing and baking . I tried to keep it as accurate as possible but it's not a thoroughly 'tested' recipe, so use your best judgement if you feel something is out of whack .
Picture #2 is where you see the underproofing most clearly. Note the white at the base of the slashes.
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White Sourdough Loaf
Grams %
Final dough
Liquid levain 289 71.5
White bread flour 404 100.0
Instant dry yeast 10 2.4
Salt 12 2.9
Water 148 36.6
Total 863
Liquid levain
White bread flour 120 100
Mature sour 48 40
Water 121 100.8
Total 289
Baking weight 808 gr
Weight after baking 700 gr
Portion returned
to mature sour 55 gr
Add all the ingredients for the final dough and mix on 1 for 3-4 minutes. Change mixer speed to 2 and mix for 4-5 minutes. Adjust the hydration as necessary to achieve a medium soft dough. Turn onto the bench/counter, or leave in bowl, covered with plastic in both cases.
Notes
The levain stood for 24 hours @ approx. 65>70* before being mixed in to the final dough.
The final dough temp was 74* coming to a steady 70* +/- during the entire fermentation.
The dough rested for 1.5 hours before the first fold and another 50 minutes before the second.
Final rise was 1.25 hr *** could have been 1.5/1.75 hrs for full proof ***
The bake was 440* F for the first 15 with 3-4 sprays from the mister in addition to the pan of water in the oven. After 15 min. the temp was reduced to 420 for 10 min., then turned, and baked for 10 more minutes.
Franko, It looks great. Is your 48 g mature sour at 100% hydration?
I'm very new at baking bread. I've probably made 5 loaves total of sourdough, I am trying a new recipe each time. I'm enjoying the process but making a lot of mistakes which is fine with me as you learn so much from it.
Thanks, Erlinda
Thanks Erlinda,
But honestly I think that this particular loaf didn't reach it's full potential, simply because I ran out of time. I couldn't say exactly what the hydration of my sour is because I don't keep notes on it. It's more of a textural thing with me, depending on what I want to use it in next. I tend to keep it loose because it's easier to thicken it than to thin it. My best guess from the appearance when I used it in the recipe would be 100% or higher. It has the consistency right now of a very thick sauce . It will fold over itself as it falls from a spoon. This might be why it's not as strong in sharp flavor as I'd like. As they say ' a work in progress'
All the best,
Franko