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Submitted by bnom on March 1, 2010 - 2:34pm Side to side comparison of loaves baked in cold start v. preheated oven - PhotosI wanted to see what difference it would make to bake loaves from the same dough, one in a preheated oven and one starting off in a cold oven. In a previous post I mentioned that I had tried the cold oven technique using a cast iron pot. The resulting bread had a very light, shattery-type crust. It was an unusual loaf for me, but then again, the circumstances were not usual. We were at our cabin and I had no scale, no mixer, no sourdough. Back home, I took advantage of my 1960 double oven to put the hot v. cold oven to the test. Because one oven is smaller, I used an oval Le Crueset for the loaf I started in a cold oven and a round Le Crueset for the loaf I started in an hour-preheated 500 degree oven (the pot was preheated too). I baked both until 205 degrees internal.
A cold oven is supposed to produce a good oven spring but that didn't happen here. The cold oven loaf collapsed where scored. I've never had a loaf collapse on me before so I suspect it was the cold oven. I don't think it was because of overproofing. After shaping, I only proofed it 35 minutes because I'd heard it was best to underproof if using a cold oven. I scored it about a 1/2 inch--same as the round loaf.
The round loaf came out looking better. Decent oven spring. The crumb was more regular (not necessarily a plus) than the oval loaf--but that may be because of the shaping process.
The next mystery I need to resolve is how I got that shattery/light crust in the loaf I made at the cabin. Any thoughts?? And now, I better clean the oven!
Submitted by JeremyCherfas on December 6, 2009 - 7:26am Cold-start cloche baking rediscoveredI was re-reading Elizabeth David's English Bread and Yeast Cookery and discovered the passage in whiich she describes the author Virginia Woollf's technique for making a cottage loaf. That sounded like fun, so I decided to give it a try, and was very pleased with the outcome. I blogged about it here. Here's the loaf just after removing the cloche. And here it is after final browning. I'm very pleased with both cold-start and cloche techniques, and will continue to use them. Of course, I quickly discovered that they are old news here! Jeremy Submitted by donenright on March 30, 2009 - 9:01pm baguette recipe- comments and conversion help, please
Hi, all
This is a recipe I've been working on, based on some reading here at the Fresh Loaf on the Anis baguettes, and the idea of the cold oven. I'm encouraged with the results so far- it is tasty and I'm starting to get the nice open crumb. Not only do I save a bit of energy with the cold oven, but the cold/wet oven actually makes for a lot of steam in the first five minutes of baking; it doesn't all vaporize instantly. Anyway- I'd appreciate some feedback and comments. Also, can anyone help me convert this recipe into a formula w/ weights and percentages? (Grams, please- I don't know from ounces). Thanks all- this is a very inspiring site and I appreciate everyone's expertise.
Poolish:
about 2 tbs active sourdough starter
1 cup all-purpose white flour (I use Robin Hood)
1 cup water
Leave overnight
Morning:
Add 1/8 tsp baker's quick-rise yeast
1 slightly-heaping tsp salt
1 1/4 cup flour
Stir until it holds together, dump it onto a floured surface, combine further, stretch it a few times, leave for 20 minutes.
Again, stretch and fold, leave for 20 minutes
Again...
After the fourth stretch, place in a covered bowl and refrigerate a few (up to 20) hours. (I usually leave it five or six.)
Remove from refrigerator, divide in two, pre-form loafish shapes, leave covered for an hour.
Gently form into baguettes, let rise 45 minutes or so.
Mist with water, score and place on top rack in a cold oven. (I pour a cup of water on the cold oven floor- not everyone can/should do this, I realize).
Set oven to 450.
Loaves are done in about 25 minutes.
Submitted by KipperCat on July 29, 2007 - 1:50pm no-knead, high hydration, cold oven - Help!The first time I baked a no-knead loaf in a cold oven, it came out perfect. It was made with bread flour. I don't remember if I greased the pan, or what the oven temp was. The next 3 loaves have stuck big time. They were - whole meal spelt, greased with butter, baked in corningware bread flour, greased with butter, baked in pyrex multigrain, greased with safflower oil, baked in stainless dutch oven Submitted by Rosalie on June 17, 2007 - 9:02am Laurel's Kitchen Bread Book comments on cold oven bakingI decided to give serious study to my good bread books, and Laurel's floated to the top. My favored place for proofing is in my gas oven, which I turn on until it just barely registers a temperature rise; then I turn on the oven light, and it maintains a temperature of 80-90 degrees. Of course, I don't do this when I want a slow rise, but my kitchen is typically 60-65 degrees, so this is great for the final rise or when I'm in a hurry. Submitted by KipperCat on June 10, 2007 - 5:57pm NYT Bread in bread pan, in cold oven.I've read a few references to baking the NYT no knead bread in bread tins, and also to starting the bake from a cold oven. Would the rather enclosed shape of a traditional loaf pan work this way? I'd love to save some hot oven time, and a more sandwich friendly shape would be welcome at times. |
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