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Submitted by varda on January 27, 2012 - 12:37pm Tom Cat's Semolina FiloneSome time ago Franko did a great post on Tom Cat's Semolina Filone. I pretended to make it but in fact I didn't because I used starter instead of poolish and whole durum instead of extra fancy. Now following Karin's excellent no-discrimination policy I decided to cook from books lying under my nose, and what book could be greater (or more underutilized by me) than Maggie Glezer's Artisan Baking. This time I followed directions to the letter (see page 124.) This bread is so good that someone should post on it every few months or so. With this post, I've done my part. Bonus bread lessons: 1. Different flour, different bread. 2. If you bake bread from a formula without following directions you haven't yet made that formula.
Submitted by Amy7777777 on September 23, 2011 - 3:44pm Too-slack dough. Could the culprit be a cross-country move? Or my stand mixer?I had been baking pretty successful sourdough loaves using Maggie Glezer's recipes for a while now. I recently moved to Berkeley, Calif. from Pittsburgh, Pa., and now I'm finding my loaves are way too slack. I also recently started using a stand mixer I got as a gift, when I used to knead by hand. Could either of these changes be responsible for the difference? The recipes in the Glezer book are by weight, and I never added extra flour, even when I was kneading by hand (didn't flour the counter or my hands). The bread still tastes good, but it all looks like ciabatta even if I'm trying to make a nice round boule. Help! Submitted by dmsnyder on September 4, 2011 - 10:43pm This weekend's baking: Tartine Basic Country Bread & Maggie Glezer's Sourdough Challah as a pan loafThe Basic Country Bread from Tartine Bread is among my favorites, but I haven't baked it in a while. After my positive experience with Central Milling's "Organic Fine Whole Wheat" flour used to make the whole wheat bread from BBA, I wanted to try it in the Tartine BCB. In summary, it was wonderful.
I shaped the loaves as bâtards and proofed them in cotton-lined brotformen. They were baked on my baking stone with my usual steaming method, rather than in cast iron dutch ovens. My starter was very frisky this weekend, and the loaves got somewhat over-proofed. The bloom suffered, but I got great oven spring and the crumb structure was nice. The crust was crunchy, and the flavor was delicious as always. I have made Maggie Glezer's "own" challah in the sourdough version several times. (See Sourdough Challah from "A Blessing of Bread") I really like the mild sourdough tang on top of the honey sweetness and eggy richness of this bread. Today, for the first time, I baked the challah as pan loaves. I decided to do this both to save a little time - this recipe requires a good 9 hours all together on the day the bread is baked - and because my plan was to use the bread for toast and french toast.
I divided the dough into six equal parts and shaped each as a round. Each pan got three rounds. When I was a child, the local Jewish bakery made what they called "egg bread" in this shape. I don't know if they used the same dough they shaped as braided challot, but the recipe for egg bread in Greenstein's Secrets of a Jewish Baker is less enriched than his challah. The 470 g of dough in each pan turned out to be too little to fill the pans after the dough had tripled in volume. Consequently, the profile of the loaves is less high than what I had intended, even with very good oven spring. Otherwise, I count this a success.
Happy Baking! David
Submitted by dmsnyder on July 4, 2011 - 10:16pm Pizza Napoletana
You can go nuts trying to find the perfect pizza dough formula. The cookbooks and the web are full of recipes for various types of dough and full of opinions regarding the type of flour to use, the ingredients (beyond flour, water, salt and yeast) and the mixing and fermentation methods that work best. My goal for today was what I understand to be classic pizza napoletana. The dough should consist of the four basic ingredients only – no oil, sugar, malt or other stuff. The crust should be very thin and crisp on the bottom, not soft or soggy. The toppings should be minimal, so the crust is the main attraction. After reading through many, many recipes, I settled on the one in Maggie Glezer's “Artisan Breads.” It uses the 4 ingredients only. It is for a Naples-style pizza. It is credited to Emanuele Leonforte of Hosteria restaurant in Port Chester, New York. Leonforte uses a mix of Doppio Zero and high-gluten flour that Glezer calculates as resulting in about 12.5% protein. He uses a remarkably short mix. He ferments the dough for a long time but only once. Glezer gives the option of retarding the dough overnight and fermenting it the next day, and that fit best with my schedule. The method I used is described below.
Method
The toppings I used for each pizza were:
Pizza with Cherry Tomatoes, pre-bake
Pizza with Cherry Tomatoes, baked
Pizza with Roma Tomatoes, pre-bake
Pizza with Roma Tomatoes, baked The results were wonderful! The dough stretched easily to paper thin without tearing and baked so crisp there was no sagging when a slice was help up by the corona. Biting into it was a noisy crunch. The flavor of the crust was delicious. The whole experience sold me on minimalist toppings.
Pizza bottom crust
Thin crust
Crust I don't think adding a few capers, or olives or mushrooms would do any harm, but I don't think making pizzas with heavy saucing, lots of cheese or lots of anything will be tempting again. The pizza was a nice follow-up to last night's bruschetta.
Bruschetta with fresh funghi porcini and with tomatoes and basel David Submitted to YeastSpotting Submitted by dmsnyder on June 5, 2011 - 10:20am Sourdough Pan de Horiadaki from "A Blessing of Bread" Pan de Horiadaki Maggie Glezer describes this Greek Country Bread as the “daily bread” of the Jewish community of Thessaloniki, almost all of whom were deported to Auschwitz by the Nazis during WW II. Glezer got the recipe from Riva Shabetai, who was a Holocaust survivor. Thessaloniki is currently the second largest city in Greece. It was settled by Jews expelled from Spain in 1492 and thrived for almost 500 years. Its culture had many Spanish influences in language, cuisine and customs. The dough is 67% hydration and is enriched with sugar and olive oil. It is formed into boules, then, after bulk fermentation, it is proofed and baked in oiled cake pans, a technique I have not seen used except with Greek breads. Glezer provides both a yeasted and a sourdough version of Pan de Horiadaki. I made the sourdough version. The method is remarkable in that the bulk fermentation is short relative to the proofing time.
Method
Pan de Horiadaki crumb Note the dull (not shiny) crust. This is from baking without steam, as Glezer specifies. I personally prefer a somewhat shinier crust, so I may bake this bread with steam next time. The crust is relatively thick from the long bake and very crunchy. The crumb is chewy. The flavor is exceptional, enhanced I'm sure by the sugar and olive oil. There is no detectible sourdough tang, just a sweet, wheaty flavor. I expect this bread to make outstanding toast and sandwiches, but it is delicious just as is. Note to brother Glenn: If you liked the other Greek bread I made, you will love this one. I don't suppose it would be a crime to coat it with sesame seeds either, but the flavor is so nice as it is, it would be almost a shame to mask it with other strong flavors. David Submitted to YeastSpotting Submitted by varda on May 30, 2011 - 12:48pm Semolina Filone with SourdoughEver since Franko posted his semolina filone I've been wanting to try it. But I didn't want to follow Maggie Glezer's directions (recipe on p. 124 of Artisan Bread) completely since I wanted to adapt it to use a starter instead of a Poolish. I also didn't have access to fine durum flour - just the big bag of Atta that I hauled home last week. I have made a few tries at it - today's was my third. It is the sourest bread I have made recently, with no change to my starter, so I assume it is a function of the fermentation of the durum. The hardest part seemed to be to get proper opening of the scores. I think I finally got it. It wasn't any one thing - just getting a hang of the dough and making small changes to the formula. The difference in flours meant that Franko's experience - particularly how much water required - didn't match mine. Perfect for an afternoon snack. Formula - with 66% hydration starter 97% white, 3% rye.
Mix all but salt. Autolyze for 30 minutes. Add salt. Bulk Ferment for 3 hours with 2 stretch and folds. (I didn't do mine evenly because of outages.) Shape and dust with flour. Place seam side up in couche. Proof for 50 minutes. Spritz with water and sprinkle sesame seeds. Score down center flat to counter. Bake at 400F for 20 minutes with steam, 25 minutes without. Submitted by Franko on May 11, 2011 - 5:38pm Semolina Filone
A few weeks back I went looking to find a source for Fancy or Extra Fancy Durum flour here in B.C. or Western Canada but drew a complete blank with all my usual local retailers. Durum Atta flour for chapatti and other Indian baking is readily available but the x-fancy is nowhere to be found...at least for now. Fortunately breadsong http://www.thefreshloaf.com/user/breadsong was able to give me a hand and put me in touch with one of her contacts at Giusto's in San Francisco who was quite happy to fill my 1 bag order. The shipping cost was fairly steep, but now at least I had 25lbs of beautiful, finely milled durum flour that I could use while I try to source something a little closer to home. One of the several breads that I wanted the flour for is a recipe from Maggie Glezer's 'Artisan Baking' called Tom Cat's Semolina Filone. David Snyder as well as many others on this forum have posted on it, but it was David's post of his bake of this bread that really inspired me to give it a try. Link to David’s post below: I won't go into a step by step of the procedure since David has already covered that thoroughly in his post, with our methods and experiences with the dough being almost identical. The one notable difference being that I didn't find I needed to add any extra flour because of the dough being “gloppy” during the initial mixing. This may be because I was using a blend of Canadian AP and Bread flour, likely with a higher gluten content than the KA-AP that David used. This is a really nice dough to work with and an easy mix by hand for the quantities given in Glezer's formula. After a 3 hour bulk ferment the dough is soft, supple, and very extensible with it's 33% prefermented flour from the poolish allowing for easy molding. Very similar to a baguette dough I thought, and something I'll try molding this dough as in future mixes. There will certainly be future mixes since this is a great tasting bread in all respects. I love toasted sesame seeds, so any bread covered in them is going to taste wonderful to me, but the crumb and crust just on their own work perfectly together, creating a good crunch from the crust with, to borrow one of David's terms, a nutty flavour. I didn't notice the nut flavour so much in the crumb as he did, rather I found a very slight acidity highlighting the mixed grain flavours. I know that several folks on this forum have noted the lack of flavour that durum flour has but whatever contribution it makes overall to this formula surely must be positive. The texture of the crumb is almost feathery soft but has good chew somehow as well, which surprised me. Again, possibly a factor of the flour combination used in this mix, and not something I'd want to change in future mixes. This bread being a natural for open faced sandwiches with fresh tomato and cheese or dry salami and pepperoncini with a little EVOO drizzled over, that's exactly what I had for a very enjoyable lunch this afternoon. Franko
Submitted by Brot Backer on September 17, 2010 - 11:11am Glezer's Sourdough Challah
Hello to all you Loafers! This is my first blog entry and I thought I'd start out with my second most recent endeavor (I made sourdough bagels but didn't take any pictures!). I'd like to give a little preempt by saying that I am only slightly Jewish by blood and an Atheist at heart. That being said, if you have any Jewish blood or get Anthropological hard-ons, purchase Maggie Glezer's A Blessing of Bread NOW! This book is filled to the brim with traditional but well tested/formulated recipes and all the stories, traditions and techniques that go with them.
As soon as I opened this book I would be baking a lot from it and the real challenge was to decide which recipe to try first, as you can see I choose one the the numerous Challah recipes and being a sourdough sucker I landed her My Sourdough Challah recipe.
This recipe is a winner! The one thing that a wild culture really adds to this recipe is the extra oven spring achieved that allows for this nice tears along the braids, it's one of the few loaves that have made my jaw drop. For the sake of full disclosure, I've been professionally trained as a baker and have made Challah before but those recipes were either too high hydration or fermented to quickly with too little oven spring in order to achieve those distinct braids.
I did make 1.5 adjustments to the recipe and they were to replace some of the whole eggs called for with yolks and half of the oil with olive oil. I did this for color, added richness and to avoid that eggy flavor that comes with the whites (just not my cup o' joe). The results were wonderfully yellow tinted crumb that was soft and just begged for a little of that naughty butter as well as making incredible toast.
The flavor was a perfect blend of rich and savory, using a natural levain really didn't add a tang so much as it amped up the flavor profile of the wheat to balance the eggs, sugar and oil. From beginning to end this dough was a pleasure to work with and I encourage you all to buy this book if you haven't!
I am submitting this to Yeastspotting http://www.wildyeastblog.com/category/yeastspotting/
Submitted by Jay3fer on July 24, 2010 - 10:10pm Challah braids losing definition during rise & bakeI don't think this is a sourdough question, because I've had this problem with other doughs also, though not in the last few years. I'm wondering what factors influence whether the braids retain their definition during proof & bake. This is my second time making Maggie Glezer's beautiful-looking sourdough challah; the first time, in February, I attributed the (aesthetic) failure of the bread to our cold house - it's usually under 20 degrees and frequently under 18 in the winter. Not a problem right now... the house was over 25 degrees, more like 27-28 the entire time I was preparing this dough. I revived my firm starter and followed the recipe exactly. All steps seemed to go extremely, prodigiously well. Yet despite the dough being very cooperative during braiding, the challah came out with no differentiation between the braids, just a weird-looking vaguely football-shaped loaf. For photos and step-by-step, please visit my blog here. I make a lot of challah and Can anyone give advice as to why the braids would fail so utterly, and how to make them beautiful like all the photos I've seen of this challah for next time? Thanks! Jennifer in BreadLand
Submitted by dmsnyder on December 5, 2009 - 4:30pm Sourdough Challah from "A Blessing of Bread"
I'm rather fond of challah, but my wife isn't. Most challah is too rich and too sweet for her taste. The closer to brioche it tastes, the less she likes it. So, when I made “My Sourdough Challah” from Maggie Glezer's “A Blessing of Bread,” and both my wife and I loved it, I was delighted. Of course, all challah was made with sourdough before the introduction of commercial yeast. Since then, according to Glezer, challah has tended to be made sweeter and richer. Sourdough challah has a “moister, creamier texture” and stays fresh longer that the yeasted variety. Glezer's version has a delightful sourdough tang which lends it an almost “sweet and sour” flavor. It is wonderful plain, as toast and as French toast.
* I added an additional 3 tablespoons or so of flour during mixing, because the dough seemed too wet. This may have been needed due to my using more starter than Glezer specifies. See below. + Glezer says to use only 200 gms of starter, but I used all of it (250 gms) Procedures
David Submitted to YeastSpotting on SusanFNP's Wildyeastblog.
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