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Franko

 

This post is really more of a test with the new site than anything else. I wanted to see what, if any, differences there were between posting on the old site V the shiny new model Floyd has come up with. I was curious if the edit bar would show up when posting since it's been missing more often than not at this end over the last 24 hours. I began to wonder if posting a blog entry along with photos would have to wait for a time until things with the new site config was sorted out but as soon as I clicked on the text field the edit bar appeared and everything has worked just fine so far, just as it did on the old site. Clicking around the site just now I see the edit bar has reappeared on top of all the text fields for comments so it looks like Floyd and Dorota are getting things in order pretty quickly. Thanks you two, nice work!

The bread is a couple of Ciabatta made last weekend that I hadn't intended on posting but they were handy enough for a quick post here.  

The formula is based on Hamelman's Ciabatta with Stiff Biga from "Bread" that has been slightly adapted for hydration, one of those rare occasions that I actually lowered the water content, in this case from JH's 73% to 65%, which with the flour I'm using (Anita's Organic AP) has given me a better final result overall.

 

Ciabatta with Biga-adapted from Hamelman's "Bread"   
Ingredients%Kilos/grams 
Biga   
Bread Flour100.00%130.9 
Water60.00%78.5 
Yeast-instant0.02%0.03 
Total160.02%209 
ripen 12-16hrs @ 70F   
Final Dough  1100
AP Flour100.00%524 
Water67.20%352 
Yeast-instant0.40%2 
Sea Salt2.50%13 
Biga40.00%209 
Total210.10%1100 
DDT- 76F BF-1.5hrs with 2xSF in bowl @30&60 minutes   
S&F on counter before overnight fermentation   
Total Formula   
Total Flour100.00%654 
AP Flour100.00%654 
Water65.76%430 
Yeast-instant0.32%2 
Sea Salt2.00%13 
Total % and Weight168.08%1100 
Total prefemented flour20.0%131 

If anyone has had concerns with the new site about issues with inserting photos or pasting in formulas and such, all I can say is I didn't run into  any  problems whatsoever with this post, it worked perfectly. FYI- My system is Windows 8 64 bit and my browser is Chrome.

Happy baking and posting!

Franko

 

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Bluwberry

I'm a "newbie" to baking, got Reinhart's "The Bread Baker's Apprentice" for 2012 Christmas gift which seems to be a great book for beginners.  Reinhart says '"You can keep this (Pate Fermentee) in the refrigerator for up to 3 days ...".  If you are not going to use it until 4 days should it be frozen in that first three day and then unfrozen, or just go the 4 days in the fridge?

I'm trying the recipe again for the third time, I liked what I got the first two times.  This time I added a 1/2 tspof diastatic powdered malt to the Pate.  Has anyone got any info on what to expect with this change?

Bluwberry

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Wingnut

Pizza Night with the wife. Sourdough with Sausage, Roasted Onions, and Mozz. Finished off with the green pepper sauce.

Cheers,

Wingnut

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evonlim

hello everyone, been busy with work and family. of course i do bake as usual for friends and family and myself. just have no time to sit down and have a clear head to write. everyday, i do read all the new blogs that all of you contributed. it is a joy to read.

here, i share a recent bread i baked.. 50% organic Australian white spelt sourdough with seeds n cranberry.

happy baking

evon

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Juergen Krauss

Having got a bit into baking big miches recently (Hamelman's Miche Pointe-A-Caillere and Shiao-Ping's interpretation of Gerard Rubaud's formula), one of the big obstacles I faced in my home environment was to transfer a 2300g loaf into the oven.
Here is how I managed to do it:

1. The shaped dough (2300 g) sits on a couche

After Shaping


2. I wrap the dough very loosely with enough space to spread a bit

Wrapping it up 1


3. The dough is proofing, fully enclosed in the couche, and it can spread to 30cm width, just the width of my baking stone

Wrapped and proofing


4. The dough is proofed and ready for transfer - I transfer it onto a silicone baking sheet, which is very easy - just turning over the whole thing: dough inside couche

Ready for the oven


5. This is the still wrapped dough on the baking sheet, upside down

Transferred to a baking sheet


6. In the process of removing the couche

Unwrapping the monster


7. Slashed

Slashed


8. This is the loaf, 15 minutes into the bake. Not much spare room in my oven ...

In the oven


And this is the finished product

Finished

Cheers,
Juergen

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laureejeankissack

Ok, I finally have given in..I can read from here, learn from here, but now I can see I need (knead) lol to read and learn so much more..can anyone out there give me some advice about which book to buy for my bread baking shelf?

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Our Crumb

Springtime is outdoor time.  Meaning less baking time :-(.  So I'm pleased to have worked up this 36h labor-lite levain.  It has very satisfyingly complex flavor, surprisingly light crumb and an irresistible crust when baked boldly.  Prep is facilitated by using the same flours (a modified Rubaud mix) for both levain and dough.  Many thanks to Ian(ArsP) via PiPs for novel (to me) process pointers.

Click the table below to go to a working Google spreadsheet

First Morning    
1.  Mix final levain build in 25˚C (77˚F) water.  Incubate @ 25˚C (77˚F). If possible (not essential), aerate levain and let rise 1-2X before using.                    
2. Mix final dough's flours in RT water.  "Enzymatically preferment" at 20-22˚C (68-72˚F).

First Evening
3.  Mix salt and levain into autolysed flour with pincer & FF until dough comes together.                     
4.  Bulk ferment ~2h @ 25˚C (77˚F) w/2-4 folds early.  Rest, shape & refrigerate.

Second Evening    
5. Proof 1-2h @ 20-25˚C (68-77˚F).                    
6. Bake 20' @ 230˚C (450˚F) w/steam, then 12' @ 215˚C (420˚F) with convection  (watch it), longer for loaves > 750 gr.

The "Rubaud*" flour mix is a slight modification of Gerard Rubaud's formula.  My "*" version is

35% AP
25% Bread Flour
30% Whole Wheat
7% Spelt
3% Rye

The process exploits Ian(ArsP)'s "enzymatic preferment" during Day 1.  In theory, this saltless soaker is intended to release free amino acids by proteolysis from seed storage proteins, enhancing Maillard activity in the oven.  It also performs as much conventional autolyse as any dough could ask for.  Aerating the levain (stirring it down) releases more free amino acids in the levain, and it's interesting to see it grow back up, in the couple of bakes (weekends) where I actually had a chance to do that.

As Ian(ArsP) points out in his blog, it's convenient to start the levain build and enzymatic preferment at the same time.  Easily done before leaving for work in the morning.  Mixing, folding and bulk are performed that evening, with the dough rested, shaped and refrigerated before bed.  The dough moves slowly during the 24h fridge retard, but comes back to life when retrieved to warm up while the oven is doing the same, or a bit longer. 

Earlier bakes (below) with this process were at 78% hydration.  Cutting back to 75% unflattened the profile nicely.

This one's a keeper.  I'm anxious to apply this process to formulae I've previously come to know and love.

Happy Baking and Happy Spring!

Tom

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Floydm

I make another batch of the Hokkaido Milk Bread with Tangzhong this weekend, this time adding 2 cups of soaked sultana raisins.  

That was two cups of raisins before soaking. After soaking it was more like 3 or 3 1/2 cups, which was a lot of raisins. I was afraid it was going to be too much and really weigh the loaves down, but they still rose quite nicely.

As you can see, I split the dough into smaller pieces this time and divided it among three pans.

It wasn't as fluffy and cloud-like as the first batch, which isn't surprising given the additional weight I added, but it was still an extremely soft, pillowy dough.  We've all be munching it straight and it made wonderful toast when sliced this morning.

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varda

 

Way back when, Sylvia posted a pugliese with a lighter than air crumb.   I baked it once and loved it, then forgot about it.  Browsing through old bread pictures the other day I came upon a photograph of my old pugliese, and decided to try it again.    However, I couldn't leave well enough alone and follow the recipe.    Instead,  I tweaked it just a little.   

The original formula calls for poolish, and yet, there was ripe starter sitting on the counter with no label other than discard.   Should I discard it or did it have a place in this little pugliese?    The problem with using starter for a bread like this is that it takes up too much of the flavor room and masks the delicate taste of the durum.   A baking error one might say.   Not wanting to fall into this trap, I decided to use some of the starter, but handle it very carefully to keep the flavor nice and balanced.     

I fed the starter with some fresh flour and let it ferment for just long enough for it to start expanding, but not long enough to build up a heady aroma.    At that point, I mixed everything up, and proceeded as directed.   

This dough was very wet and somewhat difficult to handle.   I developed the dough by mixing at speed 1, 2, 3, 4 (!) in my Bosch Compact for a total of 6 minutes.    By the end, it had cleared the bowl but was very wet and sticky, and spread out again as soon as I let it rest.   I did stretch and fold in the bowl twice at half hour intervals, and for the third S&F after 30 more minutes, got my hands very wet and picked the dough up and suspended it and rotated it.  

I "shaped" the dough into a boule, which is similar to saying that one shaped a water balloon - more like a little prod here and a poke there, dusted it with durum flour and proofed upside down in a ceramic bowl.    It swelled up over the sides of the bowl (doubling in size) in an hour at which point it went into the oven unscored, as there was just no point in poking at it. 

It came out nicely - self scoring along the way - and had the subtle flavor I had hoped for, with a light, tender crumb and a  crisp crust.   All in all, a  pleasant flavor variation from the original but still a pugliese at heart.

 

Formula and method:

 Note:  fixed formula error - reversed amounts of KAAP and Durum in final.

Poolish / Starter

 

Feeding

Total

 

Seed

65

   

KAAP

39

45

84

 

Water

26

40

66

79%

   

150

 
     
 

Final

Poolish

Total

Percent

KAAP

73

82

162

65%

KA Durum

85

 

85

35%

Water

134

64

198

83%

Salt

4

 

4

1.9%

Yeast

2

 

2

0.9%

Poolish

146

   
     

factor

0.97

   

Total Flour

240

   

Dough Weight

445

   

Final weight

354

   

Shrinkage

80%

   

Prefermented flour

16%

   

 

Mix poolish. Ripen for 3.5 hours

Mix ingredients 6 minutes, increase to speed 4

Dough cleans bowl but still wet and sticky

S&F in bowl every 1/2 hour 3 times - final in the air

BF total of 2 hours 45 minutes - dough will have expanded

Shape into boule on counter dusted with durum flour

It is very squishy like a balloon

Proof in dusted bowl for1 hour - dough doubles

Bake with steam for 5 minutes (oven preheated to 500 then turned off)

then at 450 for 35 minutes

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laureejeankissack

Hi Everyone!

I am desperate, the new place we moved into has a convection oven.  I am not used to cooking in an electric convection oven and have not been having good results with my bread baking.  

Is there some way to control things better so I can get good results?

Help! 

 

Naomiyoheved

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